No doubt. The sloped armor of the T34 made with an American Steel formulation btw, could stop the relatively low velocity 75mm AP shells from the Panzer Mark IV cold. It was quite a surprise to the German tank crews. Germany answered with a higher velocity 75mm, (maybe it was a 76mm gun, I don't remember exactly), in the Panther tank which also featured improved armor, the larger and heavier Tiger which mounted the 88mm gun which would go through the Armor of almost anything in the field during WWII. If Germany could have built Panthers in the numbers that the Russians churned out T34s Russia would have lost a lot more men and equipment and we would have dropped the first atomic bomb on Berlin. The statistics are telling however
Germany Produced 5,984 Panther tanks from 1943-1945, 1350 Tigers from 1942 -1944, and 480 of the heavier but slightly inferior, (to the Tiger I), Tiger II's for a total of 7,814 tanks that were equal or superior to the T34 in firepower and protection. From 1940-1944 the Russians produced 35,629 T34/76 tanks, I couldn't find production figures on the T34/85, but I'd bet they built "lots". The ratio is about 4.5 to 1 T34/75s to everything the Germans had that could face it. That doesn't include Russian heavy tanks of all kinds who's production equaled the total production of all German medium and heavy tanks, (Panthers, Tigers and Tiger II's), from 1943-1945. The US produced 33402 M4 (75) Shermans, 10,883 M4 (76) and even produced almost 2200 M28 "heavy" tanks by 1945, more than the total number Tiger and Tiger II tanks, built by Germany. The high velocity Gun mounted in the Panther was designed to kill T34's.


mike wilson wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:

It seems that the T34, (Russian), has a better reputation than it deserves, it was simple and robust, packed a big punch and had armor that would stand up to the main gun on a Panzer Mark IV. The Sherman M1A[X] had also had armor designed to stand up to the Panzer Mark IV. Unfortunately by the time the Sherman tank was facing German Armor in Europe the Germans had developed the Panther, Tiger and Tiger II tanks in the face of the T34. The T34 had most of the same problems against the later German tanks that the Sherman did, only slightly less flammable. By the way it was never supposed to be the job of American tanks to kill Armor, that was the job of a Tank Destroyer.


No time to elaborate as I'm off to work 8-( but the T34 was revolutionary (groan...) in its armour design.

m


Herb Chong wrote:

the US also sent virtually all of the trucks and much of the clothing. the British took the same and also US tanks. the Soviets never cared for anyone else's tanks, for good reason.

Herb....
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No the USA sent the Russians tons of SPAM to keep their troops alive, as they were starving on the German front during the winter. Just a little history.














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