Well, of *course* you see a difference there.
The *ist-D has a smaller sensor, so you see
just what you would see if you cropped the 35mm
frame down to the size of the *ist-D sensor.

That's not what we are discussing.
We're comparing what you would see if you had
a 200mm lens on your *ist-D, as compared to the
PZ-1 with a 300mm lens, from the same viewpoint.

If you've got a 200mm, try it - you'll get the
same framing on the *ist-D as the 300mm gave
you on the PZ-1.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] mused:
> 
>                                       > John said
> > 
> > If you see something significantly different through the viewfinders
> > of a *ist-D with a 35mm and an MZ with a 50mm, it's probably because
> > you're starting off with pre-concieved expectations based on the focal
> > length, not because of any real-world differences.
> > (I chose the MZ bodies, rather than an MX/LX, because they're a lot
> > closer to the digitals in terms of image area in the viewfinder).
> 
> I didi a comparison with my new to me Sigma 300 f4. I put it on my PZ-1 and 
> sighted an
> object across 
> my street, a roof top with side chimney and secondary chimney. I positioned 
> the lens so
> that i had the 
> chimney and roof top and all of the wood stove chimney in view.
> I then put it on the istD and i lost the wood stove chimney and a bit of the 
> roof on that
> side.
> Not sure if its due to any magnification differences in the finders or, 
> WYSIWYG.
> 
> Dave
> > 
> > 
> > Shel Belinkoff mused:
> > > 
> > > I'm just going to have to see this for myself.  I've not yet made the
> > > side-by-side comparison, just observed various scenes through the finders
> > > and thru pics from different cameras.  Of course, we don't always use
> > > "smallish" prints or only web oriented images.  Implied (to me, at least)
> > > in your comment is that differences will be more noticeable in larger 
> > > sized
> > > prints or images.
> > > 
> > > Shel 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: John Francis 
> > > 
> > > > > >This also answers a question about comparative focal lengths on a 
> > > > > >film
> > > and
> > > > > >digi SLR.  Using the 18mm on Bruce's istD didn't seem to give the 
> > > > > >same
> > > view
> > > > > >as when using a 28mm on a film body.  While the AOV may have been
> > > similar,
> > > > > >there seemed to be a different perspective.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, I have noticed something similar when I was using a 1.6 crop 
> > > > > digi.
> > > > > The effect is less pronounced with a 1.3 crop, but at price. I guess 
> > > > > in
> > > 5
> > > > > years or so when there are a few more (affordable) full frame digis
> > > > > around, it will be less of an issue....
> > > >
> > > > It's not an issue now.   Really!
> > > >
> > > > Imagine you are standing at a fixed spot, photographing a given subject.
> > > > An 18mm on the *ist-D, a 28mm on a 35mm, or a 50mm on a 6x7 will produce
> > > > images that are, as far as composition and framing are concerned,
> > > identical
> > > > (except for the different aspect ratio of the 6x7, of course).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I showed you a small-ish print or image from each one (say a 3x5 
> > > > print,
> > > > or a 600x400 image) you would have no way of telling which came from 
> > > > which
> > > > camera.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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