chill out.
what i meant was that if i see the walls being parallel, with no distortion,
to my (my brain) this means that i am looking at the building in a direction
strictly perpendicular to the walls. 
now, if i see that, and i also see the ceiling showing in the windows
or some other
detail that clearly indicates that i am looking from the street level up --
that's what is weird to me.

but then again, often fisheyes look natural to me, so i must be
conditioned by some
kind of distortionist propaganda.

best,
mishka


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:11:57 -0500, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think you are just so conditoned to the perspective distortion
> that when the distortion is removed you think something is wrong.
> Shift lenses and corrected perspective look great to me, uncorrected
> looks unnatural!
> JCO
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Shift lens
> 
> somehow, many PC'ed shots look very unnatural to me.
> to me this is an effect that's applicable to very special situations
> (basically, when you are shooting flat-looking objects). any 3d-ness
> ruins it. seems even more special-purpose then fisheye...
> 
> best,
> mishka
> 
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:45:32 -0500 (EST), John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > David Oswald mused:
> > >
> > > I just noticed a 28mm Pentax shift lens on eBay.  I've always
> > > wondered about this lens (but not enough to shell out the cash).  It
> 
> > > seems that nowadays, in the digital age, a shift lens *may* be one
> > > of those things that has become obsolete.  Are they still getting
> > > use like they did "back in the day"?
> > >
> > > Just curious...
> >
> > You can pretty much deal with perspective correction in Photoshop, so
> > unless you take a lot of architectural shots it's hard to justify the
> > price you'd probably have to pay for such a lens (and while it is a
> > pretty good general-purpose wide-angle lens as well, it's also quite
> > large and heavy).
> >
> > Digital correction won't look quite as good as optical correction on a
> 
> > sufficiently large print, but there again it works at any focal
> > length.
> >
> >     <http://jfwaf.com/PDML/images/PDML10.jpg>
> >
> > is a shot from our recent photo-outing where a shift lens (and a film
> > body) would have been in their element.  This shot was taken at 16mm
> > (pretty much equivalent to that 28mm on a full-frame body), and
> > required some significant correction.
> >
> >
> 
>

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