Kenneth,

You can't always judge a thread by its title.

Boris was considering a supplementary question, regarding an F 85/2.8 Soft
for which he was awaiting delivery.  The pertinent quote from his message
(that you'll find in his part of the "Original Message") is, "But then I
suppose it means that my soon to arrive F 85/2.8 soft would have A position
too."

regards,
Anthony Farr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Anthony,
> sorry to disagree, but I hold in my hands @ this very moment,  a 70-210
> f4-5.6 SMC Pentax - F that has -- ta dah - an "A" position on the aperture
> ring. Bought in late 1988. I use it a lot and like the results. It has
been
> totally trouble free. The only complaint I have is the end rotates for
> focus, making the use of a polarizer a little more complicated than it
could
> be.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Views on the F 70-210
>
>
> > Boris,
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint, but this lens lacks an "A" position.  The logic in
> its
> > omission is that the soft effect changes with aperture so Pentax thought
> it
> > undesirable to use program or Tv mode.  The lens's contemporary camera
> > bodies could do Av or metered manual without the "A" setting, and body
> > control of aperture was at the time unforeseen.
> >
> > Sometime soon I really must get down to a store with my own F85 Soft and
> see
> > how an *ist regards it, because even though it lacks an "A" button on
the
> > aperture ring it has "A" contacts on its mount.  Because of its vintage
> its
> > aperture actuating lever should have true linear proportionality (which
> does
> > not exist on pre-A series lenses).
> >
> > IMO Pentax should retrofit these lenses with an "A" type aperture ring
at
> a
> > nominal cost, because they were so recently made.  In fact the FA
version
> > was only dropped from the current lens list immediately before the *ist
> > became available, and was outwardly identical except for the colour of
the
> > finish (black vs slate grey), was optically identical, and AFAIK only
> > differed in having an MTF chip fitted.
> >
> > regards,
> > Anthony Farr
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:24:25 -0600
> > >   "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Any post M series lens has the A position. This includes A series, F
> > > >series and FA series lenses.
> > > >
> > > >William Robb
> > >
> > > I see. Well, I did not know that. But then I suppose it means that my
> > > soon to arrive F 85/2.8 soft would have A position too. That's way
> > > cool.
> > >
> > > Still, I am curious - what is the difference then between F and FA
> > > lenses? Something to do with the way FA lenses "talk" to the camera
> > > body?
> > >
> > > I am sorry I am taking this subject off-track, but I hope noone is
> > > offended.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Boris
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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