----- Original Message -----
From: "Len Paris"
Subject: RE: Ripped on eBay

This is what he has to say about the camera body.

 "He Had It Serviced Back In 1988 For The Mirror Not Dropping Down. I Guess
That Is Still The Problem."

He definitely said the camera has a problem, but he didn't describe the
problem(s) completely or properly.
At best, his description is a weasel worded attempt to minimize a serious
flaw in the product.
At worst, he has outright lied about the condition.
A punched out shutter is a serious enough flaw that it should be mentioned
in the description.
Where does he specifically say the camera isn't functioning?

William Robb




> So, what's up?  You got egg on yer face, too?  It wasn't misleading at
> all.  You just proved that people see only what they want to see.  Go
> over the whole description carefully.  It was described as not working,
> and not only did it say that the sale was final, it also said that the
> camera was being sold "as is".  Only the leather case was still
> functional.  If the lens is still good, that could be worth $35-50. The
> "Overall Great Condition" clearly never applied to the camera.  But feel
> free to imagine anything you want to imagine.
>
> If Colin leaves him negative feedback, I'm sure he will get some in
> return, too.  Something about not being able to read.
>
> Len
> ---
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:54 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Ripped on eBay
> >
> >
> > Hi, Len,
> >
> > Well, I must confess, when I read the auction last night, I
> > didn't notice the "all sales final" part.  But, I still think
> > it's a very misleading
> > description:
> >
> > "Overall in Great Condition"
> >
> > Then he mentions a sticky mirror that was supposedly fixed in
> > 1988, and says "I guess that is still the problem".
> >
> > I don't think he can say "all sales final", then mention some
> > problems, say "Overall in Great Condition", and ~not~ mention
> > the biggest, most obvious, and most expensive problem.
> > Collin, even if he knew that "all sales are final", bid on
> > the strength of the description, which was misleading.
> >
> > Such an omission would (if I remember contract law) possibly
> > amount to a "fundamental breach", vitiating the whole
> > contract, including the term "all sales final".  If I were
> > Collin, that's the tack I'd take anyway.
> >
> > It was a misleading auction, and he shouldn't get away with
> > it. Unfortunately, the cost of the remedy (if the guy wants
> > to be a jerk), may be worth more than the cost of the camera...
> >
> > regards,
> > frank
> >
> > Len Paris wrote:
> >
> > > Well he clearly stated that the camera has problems and
> > that the sale
> > > is final.  The leather case is the only thing he claims is
> > functional.
> > > You have to read closer next time and don't let greed overcome good
> > > sense. I don't think you'll get your money back.  If it
> > seems to good
> > > to be true...
> > >
> > > Len
> > > ---
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:02 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Ripped on eBay
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hasn't happened for a couple of years.
> > > >
> > >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?>
> ViewItem&category=15240&item=1950
> > > 95
> > > 4179&rd=1
> > > >
> > > > All looked good.  Feedback, description, some detail provided.
> > > > Unfortunately the shutter had a finger put through it! And when I
> > > > can least afford it!
> > > >
> > > > Collin
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.
> > The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>


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