Technically, according to the FTC, (email) Spam is UCE which is 
Unsolicited Commercial Email.  I usually use the term UCE, but 
when I do someone always asks "what is UCE?" so I have to use 
"Spam" at some places.  I think however they should (and maybe 
have) broadened their definition of it to include anything 
undesirable unsolicited.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com )
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics-Sales.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John O'Flynn"

Well, Hugh, you got me thinking, and I tracked down your 
definition to
the American Heritage Dictionary.  So it seems I will have to 
withdraw
my first recommendation and use "spam" even for a single 
unwanted email,
and even though it's not trying to sell anything or convert 
anybody to
anything.  I always thought of spam as  _bulk_  mailing for the 
purpose
of solicitation.  But so be it.  From here on, I will always 
call a
spade a spade.

There is something a bit surreal about this thread being 
immortalized
for posterity under the heading "Who is Lisa Schnepf?"  Sounds 
like the
title for a psychological thriller.  I hope the real Lisa has a 
sense of
humor and is giggling over the whole thing.

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh Vandervoort"

> Let's call a spade a spade.
> SPAM, defined:
>    1. To send unsolicited e-mail to.
>     2. To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple 
> mailing lists,
> individuals, or newsgroups.
>
> Whatever the motivation of the sender, she or he is not the 
> recipient
of
> these annoying, time consuming emails.
> This list is for the mutual education of the members, and I 
> believe
> we've all been thoroughly educated on this topic.
> There's nothing wrong with making the kind of error Lisa 
> made, but
> failure to fix it calls for removal, in my opinion.
> By the way, I haven't gotten any more SPAM from Lisa, so she 
> must be
> making progress.
>
>
> John O'Flynn wrote:
> > I think it might be a good idea if we didn't use the word 
> > "spam" for
> > every kind of nuisance message that we would prefer not to 
> > receive.
It
> > can lead to misunderstandings.
> >
> > However, Lisa, the point is that the anti-spam system that 
> > you are
> > trying to use MIGHT work on an address that you want to 
> > keep special
and
> > that receives limited traffic.  However it is  _completely
incompatible_
> > with membership on mailing lists such as this one and gives
everybody a
> > pain in the neck.  We've had this problem here not once but 
> > several
> > times over the years, and of course on other lists too.
> >
> > I belong to one carefully moderated list that has a rule 
> > that people
who
> > use those "challenge systems" receive one warning, and then 
> > OUT.  No
> > "hinting" or "considering".
> >
> > John
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