On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > Ben Barto <zbernie...@gmail.com> posted > 645f3ae0908022012u5335194ar5d8ecbb62c9db...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted > below, on Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:12:23 -0400: > > > -ThanksI'm currently using Pan 0.132. I'm fairly certain some > > features are missing from the previous version, but I thought I'd > > ask anyway. Firstly, in older versions of Pan, there was a > > "Folders" area, where posted messages were kept. Is there any > > way to see which articles I've posted to which newsgroups? And > > secondly, I was formerly able to right click on a newsgroup and show the > > number of articles in that particular group. This was especially useful > > in determining if the group was worthwhile. Is there any way to see the > > total number of messages in a group?<br> > > <br><br>-Thanks<br><br>_______________________________________ > > First, you're posting to the pan list, a list some of us read /using/ > pan. If you can't be bothered to turn off HTML posting in general (for > security reasons and because some people seriously boost the spam score > of anything coming in as HTML, and not to look like one of those "Eternal > September" people, google it if you need to), please at /least/ do so for > the pan list, as you likely already know what HTML looks like in pan, or > any other non-HTML client.
Oops, forgot to hit the text button. > > As for the questions... > > The "folders" are gone, yes. FWIW, there were complications to the > previous implementation in any case, which caused a number of hard to > resolve bugs. > > There are two things that /partially/ replace them, or at least sent > messages. > > First, you download your posted messages like any others, now. (One of > the bugs I mentioned above was that pan already had that message so it > didn't download it when it came across it again, so you never saw if your > message actually made it to the server without corruption, or not, since > you always used the local copy. That's not a problem now since your > messages are downloaded like any other messages.) Combine that with the > fact that expiration is now dependent on your local pan settings, not on > server settings, and you can retain any messages you download for as long > as you wish.[1] What I'm looking for more that just saving my own posted messages, is a way to tell which newsgroup(s) I've recently posted messages in. If I posted say 6 messages in the past 3 days, it would be nice to be able to tell which newsgroups I've posted to. -Thanks > > Second, pan now has the save-draft and open-draft functionality. So > **IF** you remember, for particularly important messages or those you've > worked on for awhile and want to make sure they get to the server, you > can save a draft, send the message, and if it doesn't make it, open the > saved draft and resend. > > Unfortunately, there's no way to automate that, and you have to remember > to save the draft. > > The total messages per group info doesn't appear to be available any > more, unfortunately. There have been requests to bring it back, and it > likely will come back at some point, but it hasn't been as urgently or > popularly requested as some of the other things on the list (bringing > back something to replace rules, so there's a way to auto-download, for > instance, and a way to categorize the group list for those that might > subscribe to a whole bunch of groups, are the two most requested > features, see previous discussion in the archives for the deal on those, > but there's a workaround for group categories, at least). > > Meanwhile, Charles' pan development has been very much on-again, off- > again. He'll pretty much ignore it for a couple years, then come back > and go great guns for a year or so, then ignore it for awhile again. > Right now is one of the "ignore" periods, and we users, even the regulars > here on the list, don't really have any idea when he'll get back to it. > > In the mean time, however, one of the group regulars, K Haley, has git- > cloned the Gnome pan repository and is doing some patching and stuff. > Who knows where that will eventually lead, but that's what a lot of the > regulars are using now, since upstream has been pretty much dead for two > years, now, even if that's not unusual and it has come back before. > > ..... > > [1] Do note that pan's cache is only 10 MB by default, however, so if you > don't change that, setting messages not to expire will keep the headers, > but you'll lose the messages themselves pretty fast if you download > binaries, in a few weeks, perhaps, if you do text-only and aren't too > active. There's a cache size setting in preferences.xml, but > deliberately no GUI config option for it as that's considered too complex > for simple Gnome user's minds to comprehend, apparently, so you can set > it, but only by editing the config file directly, using a text editor or > whatever. I have my cache set to several gigs and my expiration > disabled, and am still building messages after about two years now of > use. Of course, after some time doing that, pan does begin to take > longer and longer to startup, but I have it set to start with kde, and > seldom quit it except to reboot or restart X and kde, so that's not a big > issue. > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pan-users mailing list > Pan-users@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
