-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Very, very good point. I don't know whether I'm making this mistake, or others are, but in my article, once I start work on it, I'll be sure to make crystal clear that bookshare doesn't use drm. As far as I know it never has, and has never even mentioned that it exists. My issue with daisy in particular is the lack of linux software to handle the format, leading to enormous pressure to use microsoft windows. I'll state this now, because I don't know whether I've mentioned it before on this list. I really, really don't like microsoft windows, and am prone to lashing out at people if I think I'm being subjected to windows ... commercials, sales pitches, not sure of the exact term, by windows users. Not that anyone on here has done that. Thanks Kendell clark
Jim Fruchterman wrote: > Enjoying the conversation, but want to point out again a really key > point that keeps getting stated in a way prone to misunderstanding. > Bookshare DOES NOT use DRM. Bookshare thinks DRM gets in the way > of accessibility, which is why we DO NOT use DRM. We are FLOSS > developers and anti-DRM campaigners. > > We have an API for developers to download our 340,000+ accessible > books, which you can download in DAISY XML (which should be really > easy to get working in an app that supports EPUB), or BRF, or MP3. > None of these files have technical protection mechanisms that get > in the way of loading them into other devices or apps. We do put > the name of the person who downloaded the book into the file (in > plaintext). We then search the Interwebs for Bookshare books that > are being made openly available. Out of the 1-2 million books > downloaded each year, we find less than 10 instances of Bookshare > content showing up in search engines. Over time, we've seen that > 90% of those still have the plaintext name of the downloader in the > file: that means these are not "pirates," they are ordinary people > and teachers who are a bit unclear on how the school's website > facilities work. This helps us make the point that DRM is worse > than useless in our field, and we've successfully convinced over > 500 publishers to give us all of their digital content for free > because the content will actually get to the people we serve. > > So, I'd very much appreciate it if we don't get bundled in with the > other DAISY libraries which regretfully tend to use DRM. > > And, I'd be surprised if it took more than a few hours of work to > hack a Linux app that read EPUB XML to read DAISY XML with the same > kinds of key reading functionality, since the tag sets are so > closely aligned. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kendell clark > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:38 PM To: tim; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Osdc-list] the digital accessible information format > > hi Yup, this is completely accurate. You can open the xml file up > in firefox. However, there are a number of problems with this > approach. You don't get a nice sorted list of books by title, > firefox does not restore your reading position to the point you > were when you stopped the book, and the bigger the book, the longer > firefox takes to open it. I've been thinking on this long and hahrd > for a while, and I think the biggest problem of all isn't > necessarily the daisy standard itself, but the restrictive and > draconian series of laws that allow agencies to record books in > specific formats for the blind. Because the riaa and other > corporations are usually on the standards body's boards, they can > implement, or push for, drm in the standards. Even epub has an > optional drm mechanism if I remember correctly. Until the fear of > piracy, I hate that term, goes away, us blind people are going to > continue to be forced to deal with a ton of inconvenience. Unless, > of course, we run windows. Then it will all "just work." Sorry, I'm > a little bitter. It's not easy to use linux, and deal with the > knowledge that if I just gave up my open source principals and > switched back to windows, I could have all the convenient software > I don't have now. It's hard, and grates on a guy after a while. > Thanks Kendell clark > > > tim wrote: >> I think this is a fabulous Idea! as it stands, there's only 1 >> Daisy player I know of for GNU/Linux, and thats only capable of >> playing cd's with a daisy book on them that I am aware of, there >> isn't a proper reader for say, reading bookshare books, etc, yes, >> you can read them in Firefox with the XML file, but still! the >> hole thing DRM and all leaves a lot to be desired, I don't think >> you can even listen to or read Bard books on Linux, Storm wrote a >> nice script to make the task of downloading/unzipping Bard books >> a bit easier, but thats about as far as it goes I believe. Lol I >> could go on a rant about the hole DRM thing, Learning ally, >> bookshare etc on hear but maybe that's best for the article. On >> 5/13/15 16:29, kendell clark wrote: hi all I've been thinking >> about writing an article on opensource.com to expand on my >> accessibility in linux article. This one will be discussing the >> challenges us blind people face when trying to read the same >> books as sighted people, primarily revolving around the only >> blind specific standard for these books, the digital accessible >> information system, or daisy. Highlights will include problems >> with the spec, the drm mechanism, the audio formats it supports, >> and general disinterest in the blind linux community in >> supporting the format. Any thoughts? Should I cover something >> else? 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