On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 11:34 +0100, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > Hi Roger, > > Thanks for that summary, great stuff! > > On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 18:46 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote: > > Greetings! > > > > I've been monitoring Google+ and other social networks with an eye out > > for GNOME 3.14 complaints related to 13.2. Frankly, there are very very > > few. > > +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > > Most common complaint (which seems to affect KDE as well, and maybe > > worse) is concerning font rendering. I don't know what the problem is > > since so far as I know I'm not experiencing the problem. > > > > The Main Menu Editor (alacarte) once again does not work. I ran it > > terminal and saw no unusual errors and ran it with gnomesu to see if > > that changed the behavior. > > Known - but some gnome-shell changes require some fundamental changes > here: alacarte actually writes a .menu file, which gnome-shell no longer > uses, as it does not have a menu structure. There is also a boo# entry > for it MenuLibre works. I say we push it in an update and remove alacarte. > > > Online Accounts are very flakey to the point where on some systems the > > feature is fully broken. I've seen some reports floating around on the > > mailing list so I'll assume you are aware of the problem. > > I'm aware of google calendar once on a while randomly coming up with a > password prompt (through gnome-shell of course) and after > suspend/resume, some people seem to have struggle getting back online. > Are you aware of others? For me it's actually been really bad. Gmail in particular stopped working completely. I had to set up manually directly in Evolution. > > > People (myaelf included) are complaining about being unable to theme > > GDM. I assume this is due to an upstream change. > > GDM has been badly themeable since about version 3.0. So yes, that's > known, but with the number of changes going into it, stability is at the > moment higher up than themeing. Of course, absolutely agreed. Just old ways to theme it aren't working now. > > > I've observed some sub-optimal behavior with the new GNOME Sofware > > Center. First time it tried to update the system, it gave message of > > failure once the graphical environment was back up. With some software, > > it will take a very long time to show the details for it. This behavior > > seems to be entirely random. > > The error is difficult to say, without further logs. Sorry. > The 'some take a long time' is typically due to the way we have to > configure PackageKit for users not to curse on it for PK being in the > way of zypper. The libzypp is entirely aware of the issue (which is not > PK, but libzypp itself). Once the library behaves as we need it, PK > would actually no longer terminate in the background at all. > > Currently, whenever PK terminates itself, the first app you search after > barely works, as gnome-software seems not to get a reply from PK on a > respawn. PK has been so much trouble for so many years. It's a shame nobody has thought of some drop-in replacement. O, why did we ship with the older PK updater when GNOME Software does updates (and generally seems to do it better? > > > User Management in the GNOME Settings panel is still disfunctional. > > Ability to take picture with webcam to set as user picture still does > > not work. > > gnome-control-center update is in the making and can already be found in > the update-test channel. > > > GNOME loving users are confused and put-off by the Qt YaST interface in > > GNOME by default. [As a recommendation, the default behavior for > > searching in the Qt interface is to not search until Enter is pressed > > whereas the Gtk+ interface searches with each key. Revert the behavior > > to the Qt style one. The searching by each key press slows the interface > > and seems to cause instability.] > > Then please have somebody step up and maintain yast gtk; the software > center was particularly broken, search most of it: the larger our > catalogs grow, the worse it became, especially the 'search as you type > feature'; you could easily wait 30s between keypress to get a view. I'm surprised this isn't maintained by SUSE since they are the ones pressing GTK environment. I'd be willing to try, but I'm not especially familiar with software development in general. I do however understand the languages in order of familiarity C, C++, Python, Ruby. If I could get a development capable mentor (I've been asking for years) I should be able to catch up pretty quickly and do some serious contribution. > > > > > Overall, most people are thrilled with the stability and refinement. > > Good job. > > Good to hear! We'll try to keep that up. > > Cheers, > Dominique > -- > Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger <[email protected]> >
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