I see. This is a little different since it's a direct Avatar Shape Slider
(unless I misunderstand), and isn't just a new type of Wearable, but I see
the parallels.
Thanks for the clarifications, they are much appreciated.
- Dari
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Nyx Linden <n...@lindenlab.com> wrote:
> SSB does all appearance generation as a centralized service - meaning
> your avatar's visual parameters, height, and baked textures are served
> without needing the viewer to have downloaded and decoded the wearables.
> That's why I'm starting to refer to it as server side appearance, not
> server side baking. Height is determined when you calculate your agent's
> appearance message which is now generated on the back end.
>
> Adding new wearable parameters is not without precedent - we've done
> it before when we added alpha masks, tattoos, avatar physics, etc. The only
> change should be a new parameter (id=11001) in the shape's parameter block.
> This does not represent a major revision to the wearable or avatar format.
>
> -Nyx
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Darien Caldwell <darien.caldw...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Well, This is an interesting development. I only understood SSB to be
>> handling the baking of textures. But it's centralizing the avatar's shape
>> too? Or why does a change in height need to be routed through the back-end?
>>
>> Adding a new slider to the Avatar appearance is kind of unprecedented.
>> Will LL be revving the Shape XML export format?
>>
>> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Avatar_Shape_XML_Format
>>
>> - Dari
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Nyx Linden <n...@lindenlab.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/sunshine-external/commits/108ae1ed56ea38426df239ef3247f57fb63d0806
>>>
>>> Added a new parameter to shapes to replace the viewer-side height
>>> offset. Since it is stored in a wearable, the new back end can read and use
>>> the value. Will send an email to third party devs later today to let them
>>> know to pick up the patch.
>>>
>>> Marking SUN-38 as resolved.
>>>
>>> -Nyx
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Ricky <kf6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know this thread has gotten completely OT, but I feel I should
>>>> respond to the feeling of dissatisfaction.
>>>>
>>>> I contribute to help me. I know that not everything I contribute will
>>>> be accepted: see https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25739 for one
>>>> I created that I suspect that LL will never swallow, but that is already in
>>>> Firestorm's LGPL codebase. What I've come to understand, and I accept as I
>>>> can see the logic behind it, is that open source is not the same as
>>>> open decision making, nor is it the same as allowing others to make the
>>>> decisions. It simply means the code is available under a permissive
>>>> license for others - including us - to review, comment on, modify, and
>>>> compile for ourselves. Let me re-iterate: open source is NOT community
>>>> maintenance. LL has never implied or pretended that they've set up
>>>> a community maintenance program - and I think they'd have major problems if
>>>> they tried.
>>>>
>>>> My L$2, and I will not continue in this topic on this thread. If you
>>>> wish to respond to me, please take it off-list.
>>>>
>>>> Ricky
>>>> Cron Stardust
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Carlo Wood <ca...@alinoe.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:09:19 +0100
>>>>> Henri Beauchamp <sl...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > > I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Gotta love the new closed JIRA !... Way to go, LL...
>>>>>
>>>>> I was about to type "fuck you Linden Lab" in my previous post,
>>>>> but assumed they might be assholes enough to then kick me
>>>>> of this list... The phrase "way to go" is inventive. It would
>>>>> never have occurred to me to use that in this context.
>>>>>
>>>>> This whole "open source" HAHAHA project is a pathetic, lame,
>>>>> grrrrrrr - I want to SPIT on it. LL should be sued for fucking
>>>>> CALLING this "open" in ANY way. I hate you.
>>>>>
>>>>> A REAL Open Source coder,
>>>>> Carlo Wood <ca...@alinoe.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS I'd add a comment HERE regarding SUN-38, but I learned years
>>>>> ago already that LL doesn't listen to anyone. They are just
>>>>> going to give you the finger Henri (and everyone else in SL)
>>>>> but not going to fix this. I'm not even going to TRY add
>>>>> a (technical) comment. Seriously, why is ANYONE still HELPING
>>>>> them? Why doesn't everyone just leave this list, stop
>>>>> going to their meetings, and stop giving them patches? Are
>>>>> you all stupid or what?
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