Again, the actual wording of the policy is what matters - not what you
say on a mailing list. It could be argued that all new source releases
from now on are under a new license of "GPL+TPV", and thus you
automatically agree by using any new source releases from LL.
LL as copyright holder (or joint holder) can change the GPL with extra
restrictions as much as they like - so long as they make it clear.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Tayra Dagostino
<tayra.dagost...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe is better read what TPV say, not what do you think LL mean with TPV
> (read and apply forensic laws on informatic is my job... maybe I can
> understand better some terms, but isn't anyway a reason to this poor
> victimistic show)
>
>
>
> GPL rights for developers aren't touched, GPL header is in each file, you as
> developer can mod, distribute and do all you want under GPL terms. This work
> for all uses you wantto do with the viewer code (limited by GPL), in the
> moment you say your viewer is for Second Life grid of Linden Labs Research
> the relationship isn't anymore from you and your software but from you and
> LL.
>
>
>
> You can write patch and mod the viewer with copybot features or other, and
> connect to JohnSmith Research LtD SuperLife grid, nobody say else, but if
> you want your viewer is listed in viewer Ll directory and allowed to connect
> to Second Life grid GPL is out of field, the "rules" are TPV (as for
> resident the rules are CS and TOS). All warranty listed in TPV are binded to
> developer modification, is obvious if a bug is pre-existent is out of
> developer range (a developer have responsibility only about what he/she
> write, is more than easy ask compensation if a developer is charged for a
> bug previously written by LL initial source code)
>
>
>
> Developer right are protected by GPL itself, nobody, neither LL, can touch
> it, TPV is a suite of rules between YOU and Linden. LL itself cannotmodify
> GPL license, TPV is only binded in relationship from LL and developers than
> distribute or patch or mod something called "viewer for LL second life grid"
> (no software neither GPL involvement).
>
>
>
> You can blame about TPV only if you are going to mod the code with bad
> features....
>
>
>
> Is better for all stop this victim roleplay, if you think something isn't so
> clear you can ask to clarify, but TPV is totally stranger from GPL, merge
> with perosnal fantasy what not understanded isn't good for nobody.
>
>
>
> Sorry for typo but iPhone keypad isn’t easy to use for long email ;)
>
> --
> Sent by iPhone
> Il giorno 31/mar/2010, alle ore 16.46, Morgaine
> <morgaine.din...@googlemail.com> ha scritto:
>
> Tayra, I don't think you understand how law works.
>
> TPV developers cannot appear in a court of law and tell the judge, "Judge,
> I'm not liable to this plaintiff, because Tayra Dagostino's interpretation
> of the TPV says that it doesn't apply to me."
>
> That's not how law works.
>
> Instead, law operates by examining THE ACTUAL WORDS THAT ARE WRITTEN in a
> license or agreement. And the words that are written in the TPV are the
> unconscionable and out-of-control mess that has been detailed here
> extensively, as opposed to the blissful mirage of your wishful thinking.
>
>
> Morgaine.
>
>
>
>
>
> =================================
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Tayra Dagostino <tayra.dagost...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> TPV is a license to login LL grid with a 3rd party viewer, not about
>> code itself
>>
>> --
>> Sent by iPhone
>>
>> Il giorno 30/mar/2010, alle ore 17.31, malachi <mala...@tamzap.com> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> > just my 2 cents.....
>> >
>> >
>> > * Second Life Viewer Source Code
>> > * The source code in this file ("Source Code") is provided by
>> > Linden Lab
>> > * to you under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version
>> > 2.0
>> > * ("GPL"), unless you have obtained a separate licensing agreement
>> > * ("Other License"), formally executed by you and Linden Lab.
>> > Terms of
>> > * the GPL can be found in doc/GPL-license.txt in this distribution,
>> > or
>> > * online at
>> > http://secondlifegrid.net/programs/open_source/licensing/gplv2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > TPV policy is irrelevant..... the license in which we were given the
>> > code clearly states as is seen at the web URL listed above that......
>> >
>> >
>> > Also, for each author's protection and ours, we want to make certain
>> > that everyone understands that there is no warranty for this free
>> > software. If the software is modified by someone else and passed on,
>> > we
>> > want its recipients to know that what they have is not the original,
>> > so
>> > that any problems introduced by others will not reflect on the
>> > original
>> > authors' reputations.
>> >
>> >
>> > You may not impose any further
>> > restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.
>> >
>> >
>> > so just my 2 cents but since i recieved the code under GPL there
>> > isnt a
>> > dang thing Linden Lab or anyone else can do to me legally for
>> > created a
>> > client that doesnt abide by the TPV. They lost their right to tell us
>> > what we are allowed to do with the code when they used GPL.
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