I will adjust my attitude and expectation.

BTW, I don't agree with you about Linux is junk.

I don't know the authority of a SE like you, but I tell from my own experience.

Linux rocks and superior to any alternatives.




---- On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:16:47 +0700 Jedi Tek'Unum <[email protected]> 
wrote ----

 > Perhaps I can say some things here that others can’t. I’m a totally neutral 
 > party in all of this. I don’t use Illumos or any derivatives. I simply 
 > observe this forum as a passive interest from my past. 
 >  
 > I’m a retired Software Engineer/Architect that used to work in the industry 
 > in major computer vendors and ISVs on systems-level software. Amongst a 
 > multitude of operating systems and many many *nixes, I started with the 
 > Solaris precursor SunOS in the mid-80’s. Throughout my career I always felt 
 > that Solaris was FAR superior to any other alternative and so did most of my 
 > employers. That includes the broader free/open software community of much of 
 > the last 40 years. 10 years ago you couldn’t have found a bigger fan of 
 > Solaris and the Solaris community. But even then I had departed the world of 
 > Solaris on the desktop/notebook in favor of MacOS. 
 >  
 > From my perspective, the tragic end of Sun has all but destroyed Solaris. 
 > The efforts of a few to continue on with Illumos and derivatives has been 
 > commendable. For some the results have been adequate for their own use and 
 > warrants their further involvement. Regrettably, I am not one of them. 
 >  
 > I would suggest that people that are not coming from a previous Solaris 
 > background are far beyond reasonable expectations if they think Illumos or 
 > derivative is something that will broadly compete with other modern 
 > alternatives. 
 >  
 > I personally think Linux is junk and I avoid it unless there is absolutely 
 > no other choice - and that is always in deeply embedded small-scale 
 > situations. I use FreeBSD a bit for some things (cloud server and pfSense 
 > firewall for examples). I have a single home server still running Solaris 
 > that I only use for our family storage (which will likely transition to 
 > TrueNAS/FreeBSD at some point). Mac Pro and MacBook Pro round out the rest 
 > of my daily environments. 
 >  
 > You’ve got to understand that Linux is successful because of inertia - the 
 > mass of so many people and companies behind it. The reason most things work 
 > ok is because of the many people who have a stake in it. Even the most 
 > obscure embedded board gets Linux support first. That doesn’t make the 
 > foundational technology any better - and in fact it is crap in many cases - 
 > but it fulfills the “good enough” mantra of modern times. Despite its 
 > apparent good looks to many, there is a pretty obvious cesspool in the 
 > dozens and dozens of distributions each with their own strengths and 
 > weaknesses and incompatibilities. FreeBSD is more organized and elegant in 
 > many ways and there is a certain quality over quantity focus. It isn’t as 
 > broad because it doesn’t have the same scale of community. 
 >  
 > Illumos and derivatives just don’t have the scale of community to support 
 > the breadth of features (and support) that many people expect - which 
 > includes you (and me). It’s not the fault of any in the community and there 
 > are no bad intentions on the part of any of them. You can’t expect a few 
 > people to give you the functionality and support of 10’s of thousands. I 
 > wish the ecosystem was usable by myself but I recognize the realty. 
 >  
 > You’re never going to be happy with this situation (and it’s never going to 
 > change) so I suggest it would be best to abandon it and move on. 
 >  

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