On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM Lonnie Cumberland <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks again Tim, and sorry about the name. Not sure why I was not > correctly typing Hipster. Sorry about that, to be sure. > > You are correct in that I do not want to build all of the packages but just > assemble them from the repo. I'll save build packages for another time, so > for now will just be happy to assemble the LiveCD as the first step and > then start investigating how I can reduce that in size for the second step. > > I may also fire OI up in a Virtualbox on my Ubuntu 18.04 system and try to > build the ISO from there. I want to see what takes up so much space on the > current Hipster ISO but think that it is probably the local repo that holds > a lot of the packages to be installed when needed. > Another possible explanation is that we ship 32-bit *and* 64-bit binaries in a lot of packages. I am now getting rid of some 32-bit version in the X11 stack but that will take some time to do the cleanup in userland. > > Anyway, I thank you for your input and information as I get started here. > I think that OpenIndiana holds a lot of potential for what I would like to > do (mostly experimenting with some ideas on LiveCD sizes) towards seeing > what might be an ultra small OI with GUI LiveCD instance once I pull out a > number of applications. Think bare minimal install. Would like to see if > that part could be made to be 200 MB or less and pull things from a network > repo on install, but we will see how that comes out. > > Thanks again and have a good night, > Nice to see new names on the mailing-list :) feel free and encouraged to ask more questions :) > Lonnie > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM Tim Mooney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building OpenIndiana from > > sources,...: > > > > > Sorry again, > > > > > > I see the steps: > > > > > > mkdir distro-constcd distro-const > > > pfexec pkg install install/distribution-constructor > > > cp /usr/share/distro_const/slim_cd/slim_cd_x86.xml . > > > pfexec distro_const build slim_cd_x86.xml > > > > > > > > > and with the slim_cd_x86.xml but it seems that you do not need to do a > > "git > > > clone .." for the repo to get started. > > > > If you start at the "build an ISO" part of the process, you're starting > > past the point of creating individual packages. > > > > The distro constructor uses the config you've specified to connect to > > one or more package publishers (think: yum repo), downloads the > > already-built packages into the 'build_area', and creates the > distribution > > using the parameters in the XML file you fed it. > > > > If you change nothing in the slim_cd_x86.xml, the distribution you > > construct will use the latest copies of 5 packages as they exist > > in the publisher http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster. If you want it to > > use custom packages you've created, you need to first create those > > packages, put them into a publisher (repo), and then point the config > > file at your publisher. > > > > Note that this isn't conceptually any different from how most Linux > > distros that I'm aware of are constructed. Building a LiveCD usually > > doesn't kick off individual package builds for thousands of packages; > > those are already built and sitting somewhere. The LiveCD build > > process just assembles a list of already-created packages with some > > other stuff. > > > > >Please forgive me as I am coming > > > from the Linux world of Make and Cmake so this seems a bit different in > > > building steps. > > > > Make, cmake, or other tools are used, as necessary for each individual > > component, to compile that component and prepare it for packaging. > You're > > not seeing that part of the process because you're not looking at > > individual components, you're looking at the "assemble all the things" > > part of the process. > > > > If you want to get familiar with the process of creating a package for > > a component like 'image/editor/gimp', you want to read the documentation > > I linked related to oi-userland. The docs will help you get the > > oi-userland repo checked out from github, from there you can explore > > each software component. > > > > Tim > > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:55 PM Lonnie Cumberland <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Again, > > >> > > >> One dumb question. I was just doing some reading and did not see any > > type > > >> of information on a Makefile or similar. I see that the xml file " > > >> https://hipster.openindiana.org/distro_const/slim_cd_x86.xml"; can be > > use > > >> as the manifest but from which github repository does it all start? I > > want > > >> to read over the steps that are used through the entire process. > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:49 PM Lonnie Cumberland <[email protected] > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thanks for the information. > > >>> > > >>> Yea, I probably do not want to rebuild all of the packages, at least > > not > > >>> for now, since this first test is to just see if I can build the > basic > > >>> LiveCD and have it boot like the one that I have download. > > >>> > > >>> Looks like I will need to read up on things a bit more to get a feel > > for > > >>> the build flow. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks again > > >>> Lonnie > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:03 PM Aurélien Larcher < > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:43 PM Lonnie Cumberland < > > [email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi Tim, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks for answering my post. I have been reading a lot of the > > >>>>> documentation and will do some more reading over the next couple of > > >>>> days in > > >>>>> preparations. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Although I am still not sure where the main build branch is to > create > > >>>> the > > >>>>> LiveCD of OI (Hypster), it seems that these are the important > > >>>> locations: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana > > >>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland > > >>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/slim_source > > >>>>> > > >>>>> My next steps, I am guessing, will be to install OI on some native > > >>>> hardware > > >>>>> so that I will have a build environment in OI to build OI LiveCD > and > > >>>> then I > > >>>>> will try to do a basic complete build without modifying anything. > If > > >>>> that > > >>>>> goes well then I can investigate taking out packages from the > LiveCD. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> You can generate live/install images using the Distribution > > Constructor > > >>>> as > > >>>> described at: > > >>>> > > >>>> https://docs.openindiana.org/dev/distribution-constructor/ > > >>>> > > >>>> To customize the image you need to modify a manifest such as the > ones > > >>>> used > > >>>> by Alexander for release images: > > >>>> > > >>>> https://hipster.openindiana.org/distro_const/ > > >>>> > > >>>> If you do not want to rebuild all the packages for your tests you > can > > use > > >>>> an existing repository or mirror it locally. > > >>>> You need to modify the manifests accordingly so that > > >>>> pkg_repo_default_authority points to the right repository. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I would like to see how small I can make the actual LiveCD with > GUI. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>> Lonnie > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:43 PM Tim Mooney <[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building OpenIndiana from > > >>>>> sources,...: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Anyway, the first thing that I would like to figure out is the > > >>>> whole > > >>>>>> build > > >>>>>>> process and package selections since the ISO that I have been > > >>>>> installing > > >>>>>> is > > >>>>>>> 1.6 GB. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> http://docs.openindiana.org and then Handbook->Developer's Corner > > is > > >>>>>> a good place to start. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Now I want to see if I can build a much reduce size of this. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> You certainly could, you'll just have to make lots of choices > about > > >>>>>> what optional dependencies you can live without when building a > > >>>>> particular > > >>>>>> package. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> You'll want to look at the REQUIRED_PACKAGES in the Makefile for > > each > > >>>>>> component. You'll probably also want to look at what's installed > > >>>> because > > >>>>>> of a particular incorporation. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Tim > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Tim Mooney > > >>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>> Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure > 701-231-1076 > > >>>>> (Voice) > > >>>>>> Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building > 701-231-8541 > > >>>> (Fax) > > >>>>>> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list > > >>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> --- > > >>>> Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > >>>> > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > > > > -- > > Tim Mooney > [email protected] > > Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 > (Voice) > > Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 (Fax) > > North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 > > _______________________________________________ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
