Thanks again Tim, and sorry about the name. Not sure why I was not correctly typing Hipster. Sorry about that, to be sure.
You are correct in that I do not want to build all of the packages but just assemble them from the repo. I'll save build packages for another time, so for now will just be happy to assemble the LiveCD as the first step and then start investigating how I can reduce that in size for the second step. I may also fire OI up in a Virtualbox on my Ubuntu 18.04 system and try to build the ISO from there. I want to see what takes up so much space on the current Hipster ISO but think that it is probably the local repo that holds a lot of the packages to be installed when needed. Anyway, I thank you for your input and information as I get started here. I think that OpenIndiana holds a lot of potential for what I would like to do (mostly experimenting with some ideas on LiveCD sizes) towards seeing what might be an ultra small OI with GUI LiveCD instance once I pull out a number of applications. Think bare minimal install. Would like to see if that part could be made to be 200 MB or less and pull things from a network repo on install, but we will see how that comes out. Thanks again and have a good night, Lonnie On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM Tim Mooney <[email protected]> wrote: > In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building OpenIndiana from > sources,...: > > > Sorry again, > > > > I see the steps: > > > > mkdir distro-constcd distro-const > > pfexec pkg install install/distribution-constructor > > cp /usr/share/distro_const/slim_cd/slim_cd_x86.xml . > > pfexec distro_const build slim_cd_x86.xml > > > > > > and with the slim_cd_x86.xml but it seems that you do not need to do a > "git > > clone .." for the repo to get started. > > If you start at the "build an ISO" part of the process, you're starting > past the point of creating individual packages. > > The distro constructor uses the config you've specified to connect to > one or more package publishers (think: yum repo), downloads the > already-built packages into the 'build_area', and creates the distribution > using the parameters in the XML file you fed it. > > If you change nothing in the slim_cd_x86.xml, the distribution you > construct will use the latest copies of 5 packages as they exist > in the publisher http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster. If you want it to > use custom packages you've created, you need to first create those > packages, put them into a publisher (repo), and then point the config > file at your publisher. > > Note that this isn't conceptually any different from how most Linux > distros that I'm aware of are constructed. Building a LiveCD usually > doesn't kick off individual package builds for thousands of packages; > those are already built and sitting somewhere. The LiveCD build > process just assembles a list of already-created packages with some > other stuff. > > >Please forgive me as I am coming > > from the Linux world of Make and Cmake so this seems a bit different in > > building steps. > > Make, cmake, or other tools are used, as necessary for each individual > component, to compile that component and prepare it for packaging. You're > not seeing that part of the process because you're not looking at > individual components, you're looking at the "assemble all the things" > part of the process. > > If you want to get familiar with the process of creating a package for > a component like 'image/editor/gimp', you want to read the documentation > I linked related to oi-userland. The docs will help you get the > oi-userland repo checked out from github, from there you can explore > each software component. > > Tim > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:55 PM Lonnie Cumberland <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Again, > >> > >> One dumb question. I was just doing some reading and did not see any > type > >> of information on a Makefile or similar. I see that the xml file " > >> https://hipster.openindiana.org/distro_const/slim_cd_x86.xml"; can be > use > >> as the manifest but from which github repository does it all start? I > want > >> to read over the steps that are used through the entire process. > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:49 PM Lonnie Cumberland <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks for the information. > >>> > >>> Yea, I probably do not want to rebuild all of the packages, at least > not > >>> for now, since this first test is to just see if I can build the basic > >>> LiveCD and have it boot like the one that I have download. > >>> > >>> Looks like I will need to read up on things a bit more to get a feel > for > >>> the build flow. > >>> > >>> Thanks again > >>> Lonnie > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:03 PM Aurélien Larcher < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:43 PM Lonnie Cumberland < > [email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Tim, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for answering my post. I have been reading a lot of the > >>>>> documentation and will do some more reading over the next couple of > >>>> days in > >>>>> preparations. > >>>>> > >>>>> Although I am still not sure where the main build branch is to create > >>>> the > >>>>> LiveCD of OI (Hypster), it seems that these are the important > >>>> locations: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana > >>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland > >>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/slim_source > >>>>> > >>>>> My next steps, I am guessing, will be to install OI on some native > >>>> hardware > >>>>> so that I will have a build environment in OI to build OI LiveCD and > >>>> then I > >>>>> will try to do a basic complete build without modifying anything. If > >>>> that > >>>>> goes well then I can investigate taking out packages from the LiveCD. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> You can generate live/install images using the Distribution > Constructor > >>>> as > >>>> described at: > >>>> > >>>> https://docs.openindiana.org/dev/distribution-constructor/ > >>>> > >>>> To customize the image you need to modify a manifest such as the ones > >>>> used > >>>> by Alexander for release images: > >>>> > >>>> https://hipster.openindiana.org/distro_const/ > >>>> > >>>> If you do not want to rebuild all the packages for your tests you can > use > >>>> an existing repository or mirror it locally. > >>>> You need to modify the manifests accordingly so that > >>>> pkg_repo_default_authority points to the right repository. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I would like to see how small I can make the actual LiveCD with GUI. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Lonnie > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:43 PM Tim Mooney <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building OpenIndiana from > >>>>> sources,...: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyway, the first thing that I would like to figure out is the > >>>> whole > >>>>>> build > >>>>>>> process and package selections since the ISO that I have been > >>>>> installing > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>> 1.6 GB. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://docs.openindiana.org and then Handbook->Developer's Corner > is > >>>>>> a good place to start. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now I want to see if I can build a much reduce size of this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You certainly could, you'll just have to make lots of choices about > >>>>>> what optional dependencies you can live without when building a > >>>>> particular > >>>>>> package. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You'll want to look at the REQUIRED_PACKAGES in the Makefile for > each > >>>>>> component. You'll probably also want to look at what's installed > >>>> because > >>>>>> of a particular incorporation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tim > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Tim Mooney > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 > >>>>> (Voice) > >>>>>> Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 > >>>> (Fax) > >>>>>> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> --- > >>>> Praise the Caffeine embeddings > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > >>>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > openindiana-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > -- > Tim Mooney [email protected] > Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 (Voice) > Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 (Fax) > North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
