On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12-09-19, at 10:05 , Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 9/19/12 3:56 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >>> I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered. >>> Here's why: Whom do we have speaking on behalf of education and ecosystem >>> development? As I'm not on this list—and I'm not suggesting I ought to be—I >>> think that someone like Ian, who's work is so involved with OO and has >>> been—would provide good insight into how what is done at Apache OO affects >>> the ecosystem as a whole. >>> >> >> I would first suggest that you and Ian read how the proposal of Andrew >> was intended to work ;-) > > I read it. I find some problems with it. Namely, momentum in threads tends to > prevail over nuance and history. There is opacity here as to how these names > were suggested, what they mean, how they are supposed to change over time. > Andrew's long proposal was just that, a proposal. A better method I'd > suggest, if we want to put names up, is to use a wiki, or some other > mechanism that foregrounds history, motive, idea. >
How would you deal with "opacity here as to how these names were suggested"? These are individual's stated preferences. Nothing more, nothing less. Unless we require that everyone give a complete, detailed justification for every name they pick, what can we do? A wiki certainly doesn't change that. > >> >> And I am not sure or better don't understand the relation of your >> comment to the membership in the PMC. It is not directly related to each >> other and can be of course done independently. > > I'll be clearer in future. But for now, I've misgivings over this process and > do not like it nor do I believe as such it serves the AOO community well. I > think one that reflects the points I mentioned above is better, but am always > open to learn of yet better ways. > > Louis >> >> Juergen >> >>> Louis >>> >>> >>> On 12-09-19, at 03:40 , Peter Junge <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Here's my list of 10: >>>> Andrew Rist (arist) >>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) >>>> Donald P. Harbison (dpharbison) >>>> Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) >>>> Kazunari Hirano (khirano) >>>> Pedro Giffuni (pfg) >>>> Raphael Bircher (rbircher) >>>> RGB.ES (rgb-es) >>>> Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) >>>> Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) >>>> >>>> (Would have been easier if I were allowed to name 5 or 6 more) >>>> >>>> On 9/18/2012 2:13 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Andre Fischer (af) >>>>> Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) >>>>> Drew Jensen (atjensen) >>>>> Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) >>>>> Kay Schenk (kschenk) >>>>> Raphael Bircher (rbircher) >>>>> Pedro Giffuni (pfg) >>>>> Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) >>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) >>>>> RGB.ES (rgb-es) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
