On 12-09-19, at 10:05 , Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9/19/12 3:56 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>> I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered. 
>> Here's why: Whom do we have speaking on behalf of education and ecosystem 
>> development? As I'm not on this list—and I'm not suggesting I ought to be—I 
>> think that someone like Ian, who's work is so involved with OO and has 
>> been—would provide good insight into how what is done at Apache OO affects 
>> the ecosystem as a whole.
>> 
> 
> I would first suggest that you and Ian read how the proposal of Andrew
> was intended to work ;-)

I read it. I find some problems with it. Namely, momentum in threads tends to 
prevail over nuance and history. There is opacity here as to how these names 
were suggested, what they mean, how they are supposed to change over time. 
Andrew's long proposal was just that, a proposal. A better method I'd suggest, 
if we want to put names up, is to use a wiki, or some other mechanism that 
foregrounds history, motive, idea. 


> 
> And I am not sure or better don't understand the relation of your
> comment to the membership in the PMC. It is not directly related to each
> other and can be of course done independently.

I'll be clearer in future. But for now, I've misgivings over this process and 
do not like it nor do I believe as such it serves the AOO community well. I 
think one that reflects the points I mentioned above is better, but am always 
open to learn of yet better ways. 

Louis
> 
> Juergen
> 
>> Louis
>> 
>> 
>> On 12-09-19, at 03:40 , Peter Junge <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's my list of 10:
>>> Andrew Rist (arist)
>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch)
>>> Donald P. Harbison (dpharbison)
>>> Jürgen Schmidt (jsc)
>>> Kazunari Hirano (khirano)
>>> Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>> Raphael Bircher (rbircher)
>>> RGB.ES (rgb-es)
>>> Yang Shih-Ching (imacat)
>>> Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
>>> 
>>> (Would have been easier if I were allowed to name 5 or 6 more)
>>> 
>>> On 9/18/2012 2:13 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Andre Fischer (af)
>>>> Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>>>> Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>>>> Jürgen Schmidt (jsc)
>>>> Kay Schenk (kschenk)
>>>> Raphael Bircher (rbircher)
>>>> Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>>> Yang Shih-Ching (imacat)
>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw)
>>>> RGB.ES (rgb-es)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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