My only actual day job was working for Indiana University 30 years ago. It's actually amazing to find that a private university is ran as badly as a state university, but that experience sounds pretty much spot on. Either that, or IU would have had 5 incompetent people attempting to do the job.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 12:26 AM Dagmar d'Surreal <[email protected]> wrote: > VUMC resources have been managed separately from the University for > *quite* some time now, and the University drove all their Linux admins away > years ago. Full disclosure: *I* was the last man out of there, after they > had me being the sole 24/7 on-call for the entire unix environment for > three and a half months. They were seriously expecting *one* person to > manage that, because they didn't even make an offer on the other open > positions until they saw me apply for a transfer out and realized it would > leave them with zero experienced admins. I *still* have sleeping issues > from that. > > The folks working in smaller departments and research groups have fewer > annoyances, but you probably do not want to work directly for Vanderbilt > because of the ridiculous nonsense you'll have to put up with. > > I spent almost ten years working for those clowns, and most of the time > management acted like I had been using Ubuntu for about a six months or > somesuch (six plus years of solid experience with heavy security and > architecture emphasis when I *started* working for them). The only thing > that really kept me coming in the door towards the end was that the various > departments were a continuous source of interesting problems, ...because it > certainly wasn't the compensation. The place is toxic and does not respect > skill or acumen. > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 10:37 PM Kent Perrier <[email protected]> wrote: > >> IMO, that is the difference between research and patient care with the >> medical center. When it's literally patent's lives on the line, stakes (and >> the pressure) are a bit higher. I have no idea what it's like since VUMC >> split from the University. >> >> Kent >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:32 PM Greg Donald <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:43 PM Kent Perrier <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Based on my 7 years working for VUMC being a unix/linux sysadmin that >>> never happened. >>> >>> Based on my 4.5 years at CHGR and my 8 months at VICTR I experienced >>> it multiple times. >>> >>> They gave me the dirtiest, most low-end computers of anywhere I've ever >>> worked. >>> >>> I took a significant pay cut to go there, I thought at the time it'd >>> be cool to work in genetics research. They subtracted 8 years from my >>> years of experience for not having a proper CS degree, then later >>> asked me to slow down when I outperformed the other properly trained >>> developers in my department. I tried to get more money a couple of >>> times but was denied. I got the standard 2.5% each year, the same >>> they gave everyone. >>> >>> My first grant-based project was scheduled for 11 months, about 150 >>> form fields spread across 7 or 8 pages. No clue who thought it would >>> take 11 months but I completed it with about 10 months to spare and >>> never broke a sweat. I sat there for the next two months waiting to >>> find out what they wanted me to work on next. I began spending my >>> days teaching myself Android Java and started launching apps into what >>> would later become the Google Play Store. >>> >>> This same theme repeated itself for several more years until I wanted >>> more money and so I left. At the time they paid about 50% of what I >>> can get in the non-academic world. No one in the real world cares >>> about CS degrees, they only care if you can do the work. I mean, I >>> get it... when you're in the business of selling quarter of a million >>> dollar CS degrees you don't want it to get out that people without one >>> can make money too. >>> >>> I only talked to my manager about once every 6 weeks, usually when we >>> just happened to be walking in from the parking garage at the same >>> time. Vandy is a great place to work if you don't want to be pushed >>> too hard. The hard part for me was the boredom and the fake smiles >>> from people who thought they were working hard. >>> >>> My 8 months at VICTR was when I returned as a rehire, to recover from >>> startup burnout. I had just spent close to 5 years working 60+ hour >>> weeks as the only developer at a 4-person startup. We had been bought >>> out recently and I was ready for a break, but I wanted cheap health >>> insurance. I knew Vandy would be a great place to recover, and it >>> was. It sucked ironing a shirt every morning, but it was a paid >>> recovery. >>> >>> This was my Vandy experience, I'm sure others vary. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Donald >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "NLUG" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "NLUG" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CAO%2BWgCZum7%3DF630jfkOd4kMrFbUwAAba0kKmoLPL_tifijQdoQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> . >>> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CA%2B6_KC8eSaAPCgVK7qU5zrwsvTMRceYu_6bLC-28Rz9Nrda4nA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CA%2B6_KC8eSaAPCgVK7qU5zrwsvTMRceYu_6bLC-28Rz9Nrda4nA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CACnnd_Hm%3D4HZ49VKpNPzNS1sDNGjgjE54jVKA9%2BhHRH-NV6JdA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nlug-talk/CACnnd_Hm%3D4HZ49VKpNPzNS1sDNGjgjE54jVKA9%2BhHRH-NV6JdA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr. [email protected] http://www.michaelchaney.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. 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