VUMC resources have been managed separately from the University for *quite*
some time now, and the University drove all their Linux admins away years
ago.  Full disclosure: *I* was the last man out of there, after they had me
being the sole 24/7 on-call for the entire unix environment for three and a
half months.  They were seriously expecting *one* person to manage that,
because they didn't even make an offer on the other open positions until
they saw me apply for a transfer out and realized it would leave them with
zero experienced admins. I *still* have sleeping issues from that.

The folks working in smaller departments and research groups have fewer
annoyances, but you probably do not want to work directly for Vanderbilt
because of the ridiculous nonsense you'll have to put up with.

I spent almost ten years working for those clowns, and most of the time
management acted like I had been using Ubuntu for about a six months or
somesuch (six plus years of solid experience with heavy security and
architecture emphasis when I *started* working for them).  The only thing
that really kept me coming in the door towards the end was that the various
departments were a continuous source of interesting problems, ...because it
certainly wasn't the compensation.  The place is toxic and does not respect
skill or acumen.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 10:37 PM Kent Perrier <[email protected]> wrote:

> IMO, that is the difference between research and patient care with the
> medical center. When it's literally patent's lives on the line, stakes (and
> the pressure) are a bit higher. I have no idea what it's like since VUMC
> split from the University.
>
> Kent
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:32 PM Greg Donald <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 2:43 PM Kent Perrier <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Based on my 7 years working for VUMC being a unix/linux sysadmin that
>> never happened.
>>
>> Based on my 4.5 years at CHGR and my 8 months at VICTR I experienced
>> it multiple times.
>>
>> They gave me the dirtiest, most low-end computers of anywhere I've ever
>> worked.
>>
>> I took a significant pay cut to go there, I thought at the time it'd
>> be cool to work in genetics research.  They subtracted 8 years from my
>> years of experience for not having a proper CS degree, then later
>> asked me to slow down when I outperformed the other properly trained
>> developers in my department.  I tried to get more money a couple of
>> times but was denied.  I got the standard 2.5% each year, the same
>> they gave everyone.
>>
>> My first grant-based project was scheduled for 11 months, about 150
>> form fields spread across 7 or 8 pages.  No clue who thought it would
>> take 11 months but I completed it with about 10 months to spare and
>> never broke a sweat.  I sat there for the next two months waiting to
>> find out what they wanted me to work on next.  I began spending my
>> days teaching myself Android Java and started launching apps into what
>> would later become the Google Play Store.
>>
>> This same theme repeated itself for several more years until I wanted
>> more money and so I left.  At the time they paid about 50% of what I
>> can get in the non-academic world.  No one in the real world cares
>> about CS degrees, they only care if you can do the work.  I mean, I
>> get it... when you're in the business of selling quarter of a million
>> dollar CS degrees you don't want it to get out that people without one
>> can make money too.
>>
>> I only talked to my manager about once every 6 weeks, usually when we
>> just happened to be walking in from the parking garage at the same
>> time.  Vandy is a great place to work if you don't want to be pushed
>> too hard.  The hard part for me was the boredom and the fake smiles
>> from people who thought they were working hard.
>>
>> My 8 months at VICTR was when I returned as a rehire, to recover from
>> startup burnout.  I had just spent close to 5 years working 60+ hour
>> weeks as the only developer at a 4-person startup.  We had been bought
>> out recently and I was ready for a break, but I wanted cheap health
>> insurance.  I knew Vandy would be a great place to recover, and it
>> was.  It sucked ironing a shirt every morning, but it was a paid
>> recovery.
>>
>> This was my Vandy experience, I'm sure others vary.
>>
>>
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