More great suggestions, Tilghman.

I truly think my biggest roadblock is that the system(s) in question are CentOS 7.[2,3] and don't really want to be updated to 7.8. My trying to muck around with things yum only makes this worse.

My progress with XFCE is useful. That I may have to re-install a couple of things and readjust xrdp is par for the course.

Last I heard, XFCE was lighter weight than Gnome anyway.

Howard

On 7/8/20 4:01 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
Another possible approach.  I know you're trying to convert, but the
key is to get the full list of packages.

So you might start with a different guest, with GNOME-from-the-start,
and then grab a list of the packages, then grab the same list of
packages from your starting machine, and compare.

On the machine you're trying to convert, add all the packages that
aren't already there.  You may still have some differences with
configuration, but that might get you to the point of a functional
GNOME.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:46 PM Howard White <[email protected]> wrote:

Follow up from the western front...

Tilghman's suggestion of getting <whatever> to work before removing KDE
was good advice.  Gnome came out to the same broken end either way; an
admittedly small sample size.  I have been able to replace KDE with XFCE
- mostly.  The xrdp config is still messed up, which isn't saying much...

Just wondering, has anybody seen or done anything with guacamole from
apache <https://guacamole.apache.org/>??  Seems an alternative to xrdp.

Now, if we could just make GUI a true client/server system where the
presentation work is done on the desktop side.

Howard

On 7/1/20 6:08 PM, Howard White wrote:
Many thanks for the rebound, Brian.

Really didn't notice which of the ?dm programs was there before I
started but I definitely see gdm there after the Gnome install.

And before anybody gets too concerned, I'm working on a copy of a
copy...  I may delete this copy and gen it again to retrace my steps
more carefully.  That yum erase kde-runtime went as apparently cleanly
as it did is a good start.  I need to spend more time on the system post
erase, pre groupinstall to take better stock of what is there.

Howard

On 7/1/20 5:06 PM, Brian H. Ward wrote:
Did removing KDE get rid of sddm but now gdm/gdm3 is not there to take
its place? Been a while since I've messed w/ RHEL/CentOS, but some
distros keep the xdm (login manager) out of the desktop metapackages
so they don't collide (if you want a machine capable or running either
KDE or GNOME).

Just my $0.02 (aka "guess")

--- bhw

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:37 PM Jack Coats <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

     Condolences from the retired cheap seats... If you must rebuild it
     sounds like multiple virtual machines or at least some kind of
     containers.  But I have been out of the fray so long, don't take
     anything I say at face value, ...

     Take care ol friends.

     On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:11 PM Howard White <[email protected]
     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
      >
      > Dealing with servers (virtual guests) upon which KDE was
installed as
      > the GUI.  I'm going through an exercise to try to remove KDE and
     replace
      > it, reluctantly, with GNOME.
      >
      > yum erase kde-runtime seems to have done that deed nicely.
      >
      > First attempt yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop" got all manner of
      > conflicts between libvirt-libs and the existing (old)
libvirt-client
      >
      > yum upgrade libvirt_client
      >
      > yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop" got passed that
      >
      > Did I mention that I'm working remotely, trying to balance between
      > PuTTY, RDP and vshpere (oh yeah, it's ESXi 5.1)?
      >
      > I did get to the boot screen on the guest console to accept the
     license
      > and finish the configuration.  I am able to connect to "some
part of"
      > gnome via RDP but I don't have an "Activity" or "Applications"
     widget in
      > the top left corner.  Gnome Classic??  No obvious way to log out
     of that
      > session.
      >
      > Now on reboot, the console goes through the boot sequence,
     displays the
      > CentOS 7 GUI login splash but not the actual login process.  Am
     not able
      > to get to (what I know as session manager) select which Gnome
or ????
      >
      > I am able to ssh into the system no problems.  I am also able to
     connect
      > via RDP but it's not useable.
      >
      > WhaddidIdo this time?
      >
      > Howard
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