Without NLUG I would either have sunk or been at wit's end a long time ago, so I hope this group keeps going.
I guess I better keep learning as much about Linux as I can. My main function is producing and uploading the video. These IT and web responsibilities are only in my lap because no one else here can do it, so I go to every tech meet up possible. On Thu, May 10, 2018, 10:31 andrew mcelroy <[email protected]> wrote: > yeah, in 2018 this should be dockerized and then he can roll from vendor > to vendor that supports docker (all the good ones should by now). > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I can't answer all of those questions, but as he's using Joomla, I do >> know that the requirements are roughly like Wordpress: writable >> files, so it can be upgraded on the fly, with a MySQL database. >> Trying to do anything else requires a firm understanding of the >> internals of Joomla, and I'd say he's not prepared to do that. >> >> If you have the time to abstract out a site, AWS can absolutely be >> cheaper than a conventional VPS. However, most people don't have the >> knowledge or the time to learn, and they'd rather just go for the >> conventional to meet their needs. Also, there's an implicit danger of >> adopting a single-vendor strategy, which is that the vendor could >> increase their prices in the future, and if you're not prepared to >> reevaluate the platform, you could be stuck with whatever that vendor >> chooses to charge. With a conventional VPS running Linux, moving can >> be as simple as taking a dump of the database, restoring elsewhere, >> and updating DNS. >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Tim O'Guin <[email protected]> wrote: >> > This really depends on the needs of the site. Is it a static site? Does >> it >> > need a database? Does it persist data on the filesystem, or is it >> stateless? >> > Is the traffic infrequent and/or spiky? Do you need to be able to >> monitor it >> > with tooling from the cloud provider? Is uptime paramount, or can you >> afford >> > to turn it off at times to safe money? What about memory and CPU >> > requirements? >> > >> > Smaller providers aren't necessarily cheaper than AWS. There are many >> ways >> > to optimize those costs in AWS, and you could easily get comparable >> pricing >> > to something like DigitalOcean just by planning ahead and reserving your >> > instance usage. You can pay for 1-year or 3-year reservations and save >> up to >> > 60% over the higher on-demand pricing. >> > >> > You'd probably be looking at a bit of a learning curve, but learning AWS >> > might be a benefit in itself. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 9:06 AM Gibson Prichard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I second Tilghman - lowendbox.com is a useful referral site. I found >> >> WootHosting there and have two inexpensive VPS hosts from them. Their >> tech >> >> support is quick, but I would be hesitant to wholeheartedly recommend >> >> WootHosting because of performance issues, likely resulting from >> overselling >> >> a physical host. That being said, for around $25 a year, you can get a >> >> server to test and play with. It might make a nice failover or test-bed >> >> site. >> >> >> >> Gibson Prichard >> >> Nashville, TN >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected] >> > >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> This is my go-to for hosting providers. https://lowendbox.com/ Note >> >>> that this is not a service, in itself, but rather a blog with listings >> >>> of many other (small) providers. Their pricing is generally a lot >> >>> better than some of the mainstream providers. >> >>> >> >>> My current favorite is VPS Dime, but if I need something >> >>> international, I go back to the source to find other providers. >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Bucky Wolfe <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> > Running a webserver on bare metal is pretty nutty in 2018 (unless >> >>> > you're >> >>> > getting thousands of requests per second). There are actually a lot >> of >> >>> > downsides to what you're doing, particularly: you have a single >> point >> >>> > of >> >>> > failure (in both the lone dedicated server and the single region >> it's >> >>> > located in), you're probably not even coming close to fully >> utilizing >> >>> > the >> >>> > box, and could be paying 5-10x what you'd be paying if you had built >> >>> > something on a budget cloud provider. The question should probably >> be >> >>> > more >> >>> > about what your requirements are for the cloud service you choose, >> >>> > rather >> >>> > than *if* you should be using it. >> >>> > >> >>> > If you're looking for suggestions: Vultr and DigitalOcean are >> probably >> >>> > the >> >>> > two best budget IaaS providers out there, I'd suggest auditing them >> >>> > both and >> >>> > making your comparison against rackspace's cloud offering. If you >> have >> >>> > a ton >> >>> > of money to throw around, obviously AWS and GCP are more than >> adequate, >> >>> > but >> >>> > you get a lot more bang for your buck with the little(r) guys. >> Also, if >> >>> > you'd rather be more hands off with the maintenance of your >> >>> > infrastructure, >> >>> > you could outsource that and look into using a PaaS like Heroku. >> >>> > >> >>> > Cheers, >> >>> > Bucky >> >>> > >> >>> > Best, >> >>> > Bucky Wolfe >> >>> > >> >>> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Michael L < >> [email protected]> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I have to make a decision soon on whether to continue running our >> >>> >> website >> >>> >> on a managed dedicated server (with firewall) or hosting our site >> in >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> cloud. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Can anyone point me in the direction of a solution and/or tell me >> >>> >> pitfalls >> >>> >> to avoid? 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