Yeah it's a tough call. You mentioned that you don't do this very often, but when you DO have to setup new systems, you also said that the scripts are out of date almost immediately. So now, every time you provision a new set of boxes, you have to also manage a code base.
Payroll was always the biggest expense at the smaller companies where I've worked, and it was easy to push for better tools when I could say "Look, I know this larger one-time expense hurts, but it pays back in 3,4,12 months whatever and after that we're saving money". On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote: > On 07/15/2014 03:16 PM, Wesley Duffee-Braun wrote: > >> not to go too far into the weeds, but I'm not sure I agree with "puppet >> is for people that can't rsync" and while I get the gist of that >> statement, having a standard toolkit (puppet, chef, whathaveyou) scales >> much better. It's the "who will run our shit if you get hit by a bus" >> situation. or the "let's not have to spend a month's salary bringing the >> new guy up to speed on our specialized tools" - just hire someone who >> already knows puppet or whatever. >> >> > But you see, gentlemen, I am smack dab in the middle of that debate and I > can make the case for both sides. > > Use case problem number one - if we were setting up three new servers a > week, we could justify more time in two ways: an implementation engine > such as puppet and more replication by copying vm guests or imaging from > clonezilla (for a bare metal server). Our volume is low enough that I > can't justify much of that effort. Trust me, I clone servers whenever > possible. > > Our current toolkit is that set of PXE boots, kickstarts and bash scripts. > Those scripts get out of date and broken in a hurry. We have quite a, > ummmm, collection of packages from all over the place. We would benefit > from replacing our existing scripts with a more visible tool. > > Howard > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "NLUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- http://www.wesleyduffeebraun.com <http://www.ashevillephotobooth.com> -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
