Hey Alan,

I believe you’re referring to “The Art of Failure”  by Jesper Juul, no?

https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/art-failure
https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/art-failure
https://polymail.io/?utm_source=polymail&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=link-preview

https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/art-failure

https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/art-failure

Best,

Andrea Morales Coto

MFA Transdisciplinary Design '16

Parsons The School For Design

http://www.andreamoralescoto.com/

+1 347 774 5658

New York, NY

On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 9:25 AM Alan Sondheim

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> wrote:

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Want to point out that Terry Winograd has written on failure as basic - I

think that was in Understanding Computers and Cognition: A New Foundation

for Design (with Fernando Flores) Ablex Publ Corp. - and that he and

Maturana have worked on autopoesis extensively; there's also a book I have

(but not with me, forget the title) on failure in computer game playing,

which is fascinating.

- Alan

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016, Annie Abrahams wrote:

> Failure - why science is so successful book by Stuart Firestein[IMAGE]

> ?

>

> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 10:03 PM, x [email protected]> wrote:

> Cool! Thanks for the links.

>

> A bit of own 2.5p chipping in:

>

> If we talk past/history, is it too much of a stretch to draw a

> line from european oriented interests with the "primitive"?

> (guess we could go further back but hey..) The "primitive", with

> people like gauguin, klee and matisse, I think can be linked

> with the next wave of similar interests, eg the "naive". ie

> child like, hence I placed klee there.. Well.. these, i think,

> have obvious resonances with imperialism, noble "savage", and

> indeed "purity" of childhood, no?

>

> Might it not be worthwhile to crit stuff like negative knowledge

> in its various forms, fails, bloops, etc. as possibly linked to

> these earlier forms? Or even contemporary "incarnations"?

>

> (Am saying all these from a certain perspective of doing stuff

> that skirts on various levels the negative knowledge ways, eg: a

> search from sense-cluelessnes in amsterdam?

>
http://senseclueless.beep.pm/0clueams/
)

> ie these questions do cross critically my mind re own practices.

> seemed appropriate to share..

>

> Cheers and have fun!

>

> aharon

> xxxxx

>

> December 3 2016 8:01 PM, "Alan Sondheim" [email protected]>

> wrote:

> > The material on failure is interesting; I've talked a lot

> about it. Years ago I did a

> > presentation/performance in Boston, showing a lot of video

> work - work which I declared a failure,

> > and talked about the edges failure can ride on etc. The

> audience was infuriated; they wanted

> > something that would be cleanly sutured as a positive

> totality, something I found less instructive

> > and even boring. And then recently with the ISIS materials -

> there was no way they could be

> > 'successful' as artworks; anguish seeped through in their very

> inability to cope with the subjects

> > literally at-hand -

> >

> > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Annie Abrahams wrote:

> >

> >> there is also the project failonomics by Isabelle Desjeux

> started in 2012

> >>
https://failomics.wordpress.com
> >> one of her latest projects is called Learn to fail :

> >>
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/2016/11/22/learn-to-fail-1">
https://failomics.wordpress.com
/2016/11/22/learn-to-fail-1

> >>> best

> >> Annie

> >>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Katriona Beales

> [email protected]>

> >> wrote:

> >> That's very interesting - thanks for sending that round. I

> was

> >> part of a collective organised by Jakob Jakobsen looking at

> John

> >> Latham's conception of Anti-Know - trying to explore what

> >> Anti-know was/is and find lived experiences of it not just

> >> academic frameworks; & simultaneously looking at Anti-Know as

> a

> >> potential oppositional space for organising and activists.

> >> Sounds related. More info here for those interested:

> >>
http://flattimeho.org.uk/exhibitions/antiknow
> >>

>
http://flattimeho.org.uk/projects/publications/anti-know-research-report
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