It's all outrageous, and there's almost no answer that can be given to Trump's denigration; name-calling - which he's good at - appeals to his white conservative base, which is his main strength, fundamentalist christians, the disenfranchised, the furious, the paranoid, etc. etc.

- Alan, beware!

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Ana Vald?s wrote:


I agree with Alan and the very narrow gap between Trump and Hillary shows
how the middle voters dissappear and the countries polarizes.
In a confrontation Trump and Bernie i sadly believe Trump wins.
If Clinton loses to Bernie or to Biden, of course.
However I don't know the statistics about how the Black and the Hispano
votes. I guess no one Hispano is going to vote for Trump but he has been
careful not alienating the Blacks the same way.
But his proposal of changing the Constitution and not giving the rights of
citizenship to children born in the US, "the anchor baby", is outrageous
against the children born from the slaves.
Ana

El ago 24, 2015 1:36 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <[email protected]> escribi?:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated


      He's not a buffoon - he's dangerous.
      And to be honest, people said that about Hitler (years ago I
      spoke w/ survivors who said he was first perceived as a clown).

      - Alan

      On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, BishopZ wrote:

            I had not heard of the great migration, but it fits
            nicely into - all
            people want is a better life.

            I hear what Alan is saying, but Trump is a buffoon.
            That is how people
            see him. He has no more chance of being elected than
            Bernie Sanders.
            538 blog has it all spelled out.

            General questions in the current tone of
            conversation:

            a) With this and with Dismaland, i think we should
            talk about eddies
            of distraction-like a symbolic diaspora. Hidden in
            the sense that we
            are all deluged with information. Valuable in the
            sense that cultures
            grow there.

            b) Was the little mermaid glitched? It may be
            similar in visual
            appearance, but that is different than the
            conceptual art form.

            c) Which is more Sensational: Banksy, Donald Trump,
            or Saatchi & Saatchi?


            distractified, bz






            On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Alan Sondheim
            <[email protected]> wrote:


                  What's frightening here, Trump wanting
                  to get rid of 11 million people, not
                  to mention their children. To do what?
                  Gather at the Wall? Put them in
                  camps? The U.S. hasn't even had a
                  conversation about taking in refugees,
                  given the violence here to come. Trump
                  reminds me of Hitler, threats both
                  veiled and unveiled, it's always THEM
                  THEM THEM and he's pulling in record
                  crowds with this kind of garbage. He's
                  only 6 points behind Hilary, who's
                  also weak because of the constant email
                  scandal...

                  - Alan

                  On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, Johannes Birringer
                  wrote:


                        hello

                        different news corridor
                        where I am at the moment in
                        Europe;

                        last week we were told UK
                        government wants to close
                        euro tunnel and
                        block any and all refugees
                        from entering the UK. 
                        Thousands are currently
                        in camps at Calais.

                        then we heard two days ago
                        of the destiny of
                        archaeologist Khaled Asaad.


                        Islamischer Staat Ein
                        bestialischer Mord
                        Die Dschihadisten des IS
                        haben in Palmyra den
                        syrischen Arch?ologen Khaled
                        Asaad ermordet. Der
                        82-J?hrige hatte ein halbes
                        Jahrhundert lang die
                        Ruinenstadt erforscht.


                        [
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/islamischer-staat-ein-bestialisc
                        her-mord-13758844.html
                        ]

                        the refugee and migration
                        dilemma are on everyone's
                        mind, and I wonder
                        what others here think? 
                        have you heard the
                        predictions for the great
                        migration?
                        how do you think the
                        administrations of countries
                        and communities will
                        respond?

                        regards
                        Johannes Birringer




                        ++



                        From: dave miller
                        
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Reply-To: NetBehaviour for
                        networked distributed
                        creativity
                        
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Date: Saturday, August 22,
                        2015 at 3:24 PM
                        To: NetBehaviour for
                        networked distributed
                        creativity
                        
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour]
                        banksy dismaland


                        I've only read the guardian
                        article but I like the idea.
                        A ghastly theme
                        park to suit the age of
                        austerity and misery and
                        Tory rule. I must try to
                        go.
                        An entry to anarchism? I
                        hope it is. I dont
                        understand why damien hirst
                        and his bunch are involved
                        though.

                        On 22 Aug 2015 21:15, "Alan
                        Sondheim"
                        <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
                        wrote:

                        it sounds terrific and
                        perfect and J.G.Ballard -
                        would love to see it. I
                        imagine it's something like
                        Rhode Island -

                        On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, James
                        Morris wrote:

                        any thoughts?
                        good? a good thing? bad? bad
                        in a good way? or just
                        indifferent.

                        saw on ch4 news one of the
                        artists had never been an
                        artist before, this
                        alongside such giants as
                        everyone's favourite: damien
                        hirst.

                        if damien's there, maybe
                        tracy should be too, but i
                        would like to offer
                        another solutionm, tracy
                        could come back to her home
                        town and collect
                        rubbish off the streets -
                        discarded matresses, crt
                        monitors, sofas - that
                        people can't be bothered to
                        take to the tip - and
                        perhaps rejuvinate these
                        items into works of art?

                        oh sorry. back to dismaland,
                        i would be tempted to visit
                        if it was less
                        inconvenient, ie, it was
                        just down the road so i
                        didn't have to venture out
                        of thanet. it's only open
                        for 5 weeks.

                        there you are then, that's
                        the sum total of my dismal
                        thoughts toward
                        dismaland.
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