Jennifer,
I went to a one day training and your explanation was exactly the way it was 
explained.  While the jargon changes the major concepts keep coming back.  I 
would love to see lesson plans that people who use Mosaic strategies are 
producing.  Are any new books or workshops coming from Ellin's group.
Pat
On Sep 29, 2013, at 5:36 AM, "Palmer, Jennifer" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Argument writing is NOT persuasive. It is writing to build a case. Suppose 
> you ask your students to read Shakespeare...say ...Hamlet. Argument writing 
> would be a response to a prompt like "Was Hamlet justified in his feelings 
> against the new king? Why or why not?" Argument writing is about taking a 
> position and using evidence from the text (or in some cases of argument 
> writing) their own research... and building a case for their thesis.
> 
> My understanding is that claims support a thesis. A thesis is an overall 
> statement. There may be several claims that support the thesis... and of 
> course, under the CCSS in argument writing you must support all of your 
> claims. 
> Example... 
> Hamlet was justified in his plot against his king and mother. (thesis)
> Claim 1... They murdered his father.
> (then text evidence to support)
> Claim 2... They murdered the rightful king.
> (then text evidence to support)
> Claim 3...self defense...they might murder Hamlet next because he is an heir 
> to the throne...
> (then text evidence to support)
> 
> It has been a while since I read Hamlet, but even if I don't remember the 
> plot line accurately, I hope this example helps.
> 
> And in the 20+ years I have been in education, the jargon has continually 
> changed...so I would expect that to continue...CCSS though, I think, will be 
> around for quite a while.
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2013, at 10:35 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm wondering about the new vocabulary associated with the Common Core State 
>> Standards.  I'm only getting little snippets for my colleagues, but nothing 
>> official at school, and nothing that helps me understand the difference. 
>> I think that the word claim has replaced the word thesis.  What's the 
>> difference?  If there is no difference, why is there now a different word?
>> 
>> Persuasive writing is now called argumentative writing.  Why?  All my 
>> students think they know what an argument is, and I would not call that 
>> persuasive. 
>> Also, do you think these new words will be replaced (again) in the next few 
>> years?
>> 
>> I'm interested in any information you all can share before I start my 
>> students on their first big writing assignment. Thanks!
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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