On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM, rhubbell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:22:45 -0500
> Brad Tilley wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:06 PM, rhubbell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > It's naive to point elsewhere and say "see, they're not secure".
>>
>> Other similar systems are not as secure and that has been objectively
>> demonstrated. Here's one example. See the chart at the top of page
>
> Ok, since you say it's objective it must be.

It's as objective as you'll find. OpenSolaris is based on Solaris
which is Sun's OS (Sun sponsored the research) and they treated
OpenSolaris just like the others. One concern was the amount of change
compared to the amount of bugs. From the paper,  "... The Linux kernel
has been checked with the Coverity Prevent tool in multiple years. It
was surprising to us to find that many bugs in code we thought to be
clean, however, the churn rate in the Linux community is higher than
that in the other two communities."

Rate of change is crucial. I just saw this quote from Greg
Kroah-Hartman in an interview at http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com: "Well,
just to touch back on that rate of change that I mentioned before, I
just looked it up, and we add 11,000 lines, remove 5500 lines, and
modify 2200 lines every single day [to the Linux kernel]."

Systems with that amount of change are more prone to failure. I would
not want to fly on an airplane that got a new, different engine bolted
on every week. I think that's the point of the comparisons. Nothing
against other systems, they are fine for certain things and thank
goodness for companies such as RedHat that tame that change into
something manageable.

Brad

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