On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:06 PM, rhubbell <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's naive to point elsewhere and say "see, they're not secure".

Other similar systems are not as secure and that has been objectively
demonstrated. Here's one example. See the chart at the top of page
three: 
http://research.sun.com/projects/downunder/publications/documents/kca09.pdf

If you care about these things, then you use OpenBSD.

Brad

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