Dave, thank you for the answer. I now subscribed to the
mobile-devel-list and also found the relevant threads in the archives.
I'll read through all of it and then decide what to do.

Thanks!
Conny


On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:40 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Conny,
> 
> ----- "Cornelius Hald" <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> > On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 16:22 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> > > Also, as I think Quim knows, there are no GTK+ developers on that
> > list -
> > > to reach them, if that was his goal, he would have needed to post
> > to
> > > [email protected]
> > 
> > I didn't really understand that part ;) Where is/should be the
> > discussion? On gtk-devel-list or mobile-devel-list? Shouldn't the
> > developers be part of that decision process? At the moment it looks
> > to
> > me that there is some money, but no one willing/able to do the work.
> > Where is this discussion that happened for a couple of weeks?
> 
> OK - let me elaborate:
> 
> mobile-devel-list is a place which was supposed to be about developing with 
> the GNOME platform on mobile environments. So lots of people interested in 
> integrating GNOME libraries and encouraging third party development, and 
> third party developers, went along there. We never *really* succeeded in 
> gathering a critical mass of developers from the core modules - some of them 
> are represented, and there are certainly GTK+ maintainers on the list, but I 
> would say that the hard-core of GTK+ developers didn't really think of 
> themselves as mobile developers, and thus didn't sign up to mobile-devel-list.
> 
> For 3rd party developers, it's a great place to go to suggest ideas for ways 
> that the GNOME Foundation might spend €50,000 on mobile.
> 
> However, if you want to talk directly to the GTK+ maintainers, then 
> gtk-devel-list is the place to go.
> 
> > Is there anything a simple application developer can do? I'm just
> > asking
> > before I put useless energy into this.
> 
> Certainly! mobile-devel-list is a great place to suggest the things which 
> would help you, as a simple application developer, continue to develop & 
> maintain your application.
> 
> > Again, where exactly is upstream?
> 
> And again, that depends. For GTK+, it's gtk-devel-list. For GNOME in general, 
> probably desktop-devel-list or mobile-devel-list are the best places to go.
> 
> > By reading the other mails from Kimmo and Javier, there are some
> > issues,
> > but they are already quite well know. Javier will work on the input
> > methods which is great. To me it sound like having another 3 or 4
> > GSoC-like projects should be enough to get initial work done. 50.000
> > would be enough for that.
> 
> My question on mobile-devel-list was about what concrete results you're 
> aiming for, and whether the effort you put in will obtain them.
> 
> If you're aiming to make GNOME a more attractive mobile development platform, 
> then I suspect that investing money in developer tools and documentation 
> might be more useful. If you think the platform's in OK shape and want to get 
> more high quality mobile apps, then a developer contest or summer of code (I 
> prefer contest myself) might be good investments.
> 
> It all depends what you see as the problems and the desired results.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave.
> 


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