FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly with having a longer support time. Getting
Mageia 1 right on my laptop was a long and painful process; I feel I've
only just got it going (OK, it's a year down the line really) and I have
to go through it all again in a few weeks. I accept it might be much
easier because the kernel improves at light speed, but it would much
rather not have to do it for a while!
I run Mageia 2 on my desktop and the one and [from my perspective] the
only thing that is better about it is GIMP 2.8. I miss nothing
whatsoever other than that. Even if it was two years rather than
eighteen months it would be great.
Just my tuppence worth. I am very, very grateful for the fantastic work
everyone does on this distribution whatever happens. :~)
On 02/12/12 06:46, blind Pete wrote:
David Walser wrote:
Pierre Jarillon wrote:
Le dimanche 2 décembre 2012 01:11:44, Thomas Backlund a écrit :
Mageia 1 is now EOL.
BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
I have several systems installed with Mageia 1 and I wish to move them to
Mageia 3 (I make always a new install). During 4 or 5 month, I agree to
have no improvements or no bug corrections but security updates are
useful.
I dont' want to replace Mga1 with Mga2 and 4 month later play again for
Mga2 to Mga3. I have also other machines with Mga2 and with Mandriva
2010.2. I dont need a LTS but a Short Term Support is a bad thing and I
don't want to waste my time.
Is it possible to have security updates until a month after Mga3 is out?
My feeling on this is that we have an 18 month support cycle *because* we
have a 9 month development cycle, so we support for the length of two
release cycles, so that if one release causes major problems, or you don't
have time to upgrade every single time, you can skip one
release and still stay supported. This works fine unless a release gets
delayed like Mageia 2 did (which is fine) and probably most will a
little bit at least. I believe the support should continue to run until
release+2 is out.
Sounds like a good reason for having a support period of either one
and a half or two and a half release cycles. Aiming for exactly
an integer means that there will be a day where updating has to happen.
Worse when there is a delay the overlap could be negative.
The problem is there isn't a company with paid employees providing the
support, it's a community distro with all volunteers, so we can only
continue to provide support if there are people willing and able to do the
work.
One and a half release cycles?
Perhaps future realeases could have;
9 month release cycle,
12 month "full" support,
15 months "partial" support?
As you may know, I do a lot of the packaging work on security updates. I
also depend on some other packagers to do some of that work, but as time
passes, less and less of them have either the time or willingness to
continue to work on Mageia 1, so it gets more difficult to continue
to support everything as time passes. Also, even if we can get updates
packaged, we need QA people to test them, and we continue to need
more help with QA, as it's a very small number of people doing the vast
majority of the work. QA is responsible for not only testing updates for
stable distros, but also testing every single ISO (including alphas,
betas, and RCs) we release.
So, to make a long story short, extending support for Mageia 1 was
discussed by the council, but unfortunately rejected, mostly IINM because
of the burden on QA. Again, that's not to blame anyone, but QA is a lot
of work that's done by few people. So if they're not willing or able to
continue to support it, unless new people step up to fill that void, we
just don't have the ability to continue to provide support.
As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am
willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't had
time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and probably
won't until late December, but I don't have a way to
distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1.
SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there
and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host
my own repository somewhere.
