<<<<Funny thing though, yesterday the thing kept restarting itself in one of
the boot attempts, happy face, reboot, happy face, reboot. >>>>>
...That actually sounds like a dirty trick...putting a "restart command"
into the startup items folder. I have NEVER done that BTW!
All the fun aside, Patrick is right. Disconnect everthing and start from
scratch...Just the internal drive, no cards, no SCSI. Start the box from a
known working Apple (not a copy)installer..OS_9 prefered, but 8.6 will do.
The step by step approach is the best, adding components and restarting and
then observing the results. Patrick is also right when he says the drive may
have just "failed". Unfortunately, they seem to work great right up until
the moment they break your heart!
I have found that (forgive me) incorrectly connected, or malfunctioning SCSI
chains don't always cause immediate problems. They wait til you're not
looking and then "pounce". Scanners and ZIP drives are the worst offenders.
SCSI is a "black art" Some of my most productive systems are SCSI based...I
hate that! SCSI terminators are just a row of resistors across the
connection pins. It is possib;e that one or more of the resistors has become
open(no resistance). Therefore, no termination. Many SCSI drives had their
own row of resistors, just past the connector. They called these external
SCSI drives "internally terminated". The resistor row was sometimes socket
mounted so the user could pull it and externally terminate the chain at the
desired point IN the chain. Some German made scanners did this too. Did I
mention that I hate....er....uh Love SCSI?
Try hunting down an active SCSI terminator.
Cheers'
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Mead-Robins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:36 PM
To: Mac Canada
Subject: Re: I need a g3 solution! may be ot
Brian,
If your "original 8.5 gig" drive isn't mounting, disconnect ALL
peripherals, shut down and restart. Run Disk First Aid and see if the
5 GB drive is even shown. If it is, try a few "Repairs".
If not, you need some decent software such as Disk Warrior that can
usually fix such problems, assuming that the drive hasn't decided to
go to drive heaven and is just plain dead. ;)
Patrick Mead-Robins
Mac Solutions
652-1860
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At 2:16 PM -0400 6/17/05, Brian Mahoney wrote:
>... ... ...
>Thanks for the tips crew. I'll give those links a shot, Patrick.
>Right now it seems that the main drive, the original 8.5 gig, isn't
>being seen by the computer. My second drive, an IDE is fine and
>after a long delay and pressing the option key, I get it to boot to
>8.5 which I just installed to it after I booted with an 8.5 cd and
>installed that os on the ide drive. (Did I lose anyone? :)
>
>So I guess it is the SCSI drive that's the problem. I had my scsi
>scanner hooked up when the problem started so maybe something in the
>chain is amiss. I'll reseat the cards and see what happens. Right
>now I forget whether it's onboard scsi or a card. If it's onboard
>then I'm screwed as far as regaining anything from the scsi drive.
>Would 8.5 even be able to see the 9.1/9.1/10.2 drive anyway? Funny
>thing though, yesterday the thing kept restarting itself in one of
>the boot attempts, happy face, reboot, happy face, reboot. Maybe
>that was the drive's way of saying goodbye!!
>Thanks again and I will post the results if I have success in anything.
>
>BM
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