Hola, Quiero manifestar toda mi solidaridad con Arnon y con el pueblo de Israel en general. Todavía no puedo asimilar lo que ocurrió el 7 de octubre, no puedo creer que eso haya ocurrido en pleno siglo XXI. No puedo entender que haya personas que relativizan esos hechos, ni su "sensibilidad selectiva" ante claras violaciones a los derechos humanos.
Nada, PERO NADA, puede justificar que mujeres sean violadas y asesinadas en frente de sus hijos, que hijos sean torturados y asesinados en frente de sus padres, que bebes sean decapitados en sus cunas. Leí un twit con el que concuerdo y dice lo siguiente: I’m finally understanding how the Holocaust happened. To hate Jews became ‘cool.’ También, estoy convencido que el Holocausto ocurrió, entre otras cosas, porque muchos guardaron silencio. ¡Nunca más! Gracias João por compartir la carta abierta de Arnon Avron. Saludos cordiales, *Martín * El sáb, 18 nov 2023 a la(s) 09:04, Joao Marcos ([email protected]) escribió: > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Arnon Avron <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 7:59 AM > Subject: Fw: Open letter > To: Joao Marcos <[email protected]>, Haim Gaifman <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]>, Pym, David <[email protected]>, > Daniel Isaacson <[email protected]>, Heinrich Wansing < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, > Joseph Vidal-Rosset <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, Beata Konikowska <[email protected]>, > Øystein Linnebo <[email protected]>, Laura Crosilla < > [email protected]>, Melvin Fitting <[email protected]>, > Weaver, Nik <[email protected]>, Peter Schroeder-Heister < > [email protected]>, Sergei Artemov <[email protected]>, serenella > cerrito <[email protected]>, Valentin Goranko < > [email protected]>, Walter Carnielli <[email protected]>, > Gerhard Jaeger <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, Jamie <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, > Balthasar Grabmayr <[email protected]>, Jean-Yves Beziau < > [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, Carlos > Caleiro <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, > Wilfried Sieg <[email protected]>, [email protected] < > [email protected]>, Libor Behounek <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]> > Cc: Arnon Avron <[email protected]>, Anna Zamansky <[email protected]>, > Ofer Arieli <[email protected]>, Ori Lahav <[email protected]>, Liron > Cohen <[email protected]>, Yoni <[email protected]> > > > Dear Friends, > > I belonged (and still do) to the sane left wing In Israel all my life. I > have always thought (and still do) > that the only possible solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the > two states solution, and that for this solution > Israel should give back *all* the areas that we conquer in 1967 (and > evacuate all the settlements made in those > areas), while the Arabs should recognize Israel and give up what they call > the "right to return". I have also > very strongly opposed all the Israeli settlements at the occupied areas, > and I was of course supporting > the evacuation in 2005 of those settlements that had been in Gaza's > strip, as well as Israel's almost full disengagement from > there in that year (I say "almost", because since then Israel is still > providing most of the electricity, oil, and other needed things > to the Gaza's strip, even though since 2007 this it is governed by an > organization that officially declares its goal to be the total > elimination of Israel - and has been acting accordingly. This is a > situation which is as absurd as UK regularly providing electricity and oil > to Germany > during the two world's wars...) > > I am telling you all this in order to explain that what is happening > now is something completely different. What we have > now is a *war* on Israel's *survival*. No less. After the unbelievable > horrible, cruel POGROM on October 7 ("The black Saturday" it is called here) > all the citizens of Israel who live in its south and in its north have > been evacuated to the center of Israel, and nobody > will agree to return if murderous organizations like HAMAS (which we have > all witnessed what it is ready and capable of doing) will sit on the borders > near them. Now Israel is a very small country. We cannot all concentrate > in the area of Tel Aviv (which for itself has daily been > the target of missiles). No country in the world can and would tolerate > either such a situation or a being brutally attacked by another > country, as Israel was victim to on October 7! (And what is called "Gaza > strip" was indeed before the war a country for all practical matters: it had > a government, a parliament, police, and above all: strong army.) > > In view of these obvious facts, people like me are totally shocked by > the hatred of Israel (and frequently of Jews in general) > that we now witness in many campuses over the world, including many (far > too many) faculty members. Slogans > like "Palestine will be free from the river to the sea" have no other > meaning but the total abolishment of Israel. > And it is simply impossible to understand the support that a fanatical, > cruel and murderous organization like Hamas > is getting from people who call themselves "progressive" and who pretend > to care about human rights. It seems that > Israelis, including women and children, are not taken as "human" by them. > (Actually, supporting Hamas means > that human rights of Arabic women are also not important for the > supporters.) This is a shame!!! > > Below is a link to a letter support us, initiated by professors in > Australia. I beg each one of you > to sign it and to spread it to other colleagues in the academy. It is > important! > > Hoping for better days to come - > > Arnon > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Igor Shparlinski <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:53 AM > > > Dear colleagues, > > We would like to draw your attention to an open letter related to the > events of the 7th October: > https://sites.google.com/view/openletteracademics/home > > The letter is open to all academics in all areas. > > We wish you all the best during this sad and challenging time, > Alina and Igor > > %%%%% > > Associate Professor Alina Ostafe, > https://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~alinaostafe/ > > Professor Igor Shparlinski, > Fellow of the Australian Academy of Science > https://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~igorshparlinski/ > > > > _____________________________________________ > ------------ > the mailing list is managed by Bashaar, academic community for Israeli > society > > Academia-IL mailing list > List subscription management and archive: > https://listserver.cc.huji.ac.il/listinfo/academia-il > To unsubscribe send an email to: > [email protected] > __ > https://www.bashaar.org.il/managers/academia-il-network/ > Talk to us via [email protected] > Our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/773307619464924/ > ******* > > -- > LOGICA-L > Lista acadêmica brasileira dos profissionais e estudantes da área de > Lógica <[email protected]> > --- > Você recebeu essa mensagem porque está inscrito no grupo "LOGICA-L" dos > Grupos do Google. > Para cancelar inscrição nesse grupo e parar de receber e-mails dele, envie > um e-mail para [email protected]. > Para acessar essa discussão na Web, acesse > https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAO6j_LgM_Wh9Wp2KWzoH7h88L637c3PKvifVP9rNb6G9wzZUnQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/d/msgid/logica-l/CAO6j_LgM_Wh9Wp2KWzoH7h88L637c3PKvifVP9rNb6G9wzZUnQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- LOGICA-L Lista acadêmica brasileira dos profissionais e estudantes da área de Lógica <[email protected]> --- Você está recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo "LOGICA-L" dos Grupos do Google. 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