zturner added a comment.

In http://reviews.llvm.org/D16334#331420, @tberghammer wrote:

> In http://reviews.llvm.org/D16334#331368, @zturner wrote:
>
> > I don't know, I still disagree.  If something in step-over breaks, I dont' 
> > want to dig through a list of 30 other tests that have nothing to do with 
> > the problem, only to find out 2 days later that the problem is actually in 
> > step over.  The only reason this helps is because the test suite is 
> > insufficient as it is.  But it doesn't need to be!
>
>
> I agree but first we should fix the test coverage and then fix the individual 
> tests. Doing it in the opposite way will cause a significant drop in quality 
> (we will fix individual tests but not increase the coverage enough).
>
> > The real solution is for people to start thinking about tests more.  I've 
> > hounded on this time and time again, but it seems most of the time tests 
> > only get added when I catch a CL go by with no tests and request them.  
> > Sometimes they don't even get added then.  "Oh yea this is on my radar, 
> > I'll loop back around to it."  <Months go by, no tests>.  Hundreds of CLs 
> > have gone in over the past few months, and probably 10 tests have gone in.  
> > *That's* the problem.  People should be spending as much time thinking 
> > about how to write tests as they are about how to write the thing they're 
> > implementing.  Almost every CL can be tested.  Everything, no matter how 
> > small, can be tested.  If the SB tests are too heavyweight, that's what the 
> > unit tests are for.  IF there's no SB API that does what you need to do to 
> > test it, add the SB API.  "But I have to design the API first" is not an 
> > excuse.  Design it then.
>
>
> I think we need a different API for tests then the SB API which can be 
> changed more freely without have to worry about backward compatibility. When 
> adding a new feature I try to avoid adding an SB API until I know for sure 
> what data I have to expose because a wrong decision early on will carry 
> forward (how many deprecated SB API calls we have?).


Do you have a concrete example of where you don't want to add an SB API, but a 
unit test isn't ideal?


http://reviews.llvm.org/D16334



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