> I understand that folks want to present their work.
> But what I am looking for if we are going to get folks together is actual 
> engagement on the list.  Indication that there are things worth discussing.

There are things worth discussing if we can discuss non-RFCbis material. There 
are many working group documents ready for last call but consensus wants to 
hold them until RFCbis documents are in RFC. Since that is taking a bit long, 
we are seeing delays unfortunately.

But more importantly, if people want to discuss, people should attend 
virtually. I will attend virtually when it is decided to have the virtual 
meeting.

Dino

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