On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 3:42 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 03:37:09PM +0100, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 3:10 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 02:55:18PM +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 1:43 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 12:50:53PM +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > > > > Let me switch to MQ as I think it illustrates the point better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IIUC the workflow:
> > > > > > a) virtio-net sends MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET 2 to the device
> > > > > > b) VDUSE CVQ sends ok to the virtio-net driver
> > > > > > c) VDUSE CVQ sends the command to the VDUSE device
> > > > > > d) Now the virtio-net driver sends virtio-net sends MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET 
> > > > > > 1
> > > > > > e) VDUSE CVQ sends ok to the virtio-net driver
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The device didn't process the MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET 1 command at this 
> > > > > > point,
> > > > > > so it potentially uses the second rx queue. But, by the standard:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The device MUST NOT queue packets on receive queues greater than
> > > > > > virtqueue_pairs once it has placed the 
> > > > > > VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET
> > > > > > command in a used buffer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So the driver does not expect rx buffers on that queue at all. From
> > > > > > the driver's POV, the device is invalid, and it could mark it as
> > > > > > broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > ok intresting. Note that if userspace processes vqs it should process
> > > > > cvq too. I don't know what to do in this case yet, I'm going on
> > > > > vacation, let me ponder this a bit.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure.
> > >
> > > So let me ask you this, how are you going to handle device reset?
> > > Same issue, it seems to me.
> > >
> >
> > Well my proposal is to mark it as broken so it needs to be reset
> > manually.
>
>
> Heh but guest assumes after reset device does not poke at guest
> memory, and will free up and reuse that memory.
> If userspace still pokes at it -> plus plus ungood.
>

I don't get this part. Once the device is reset, the device should not
poke at guest memory (unless it is malicious or similar). Why would it
do it?


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