On Tuesday, 21 October 2025 at 11:40:07 Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:24:15PM +0200, Francesco Valla wrote:
> > On Monday, 20 October 2025 at 16:56:08 Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 06:01:07PM +0200, Francesco Valla wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, 14 October 2025 at 12:15:12 Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen 
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 10:59:40PM +0200, Francesco Valla wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Mikhail, Harald,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hoping there will be a v6 of this patch soon, a few comments:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Monday, 8 January 2024 at 14:10:35 Mikhail Golubev-Ciuchea 
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +/* Compare with m_can.c/m_can_echo_tx_event() */
> > > > > > > +static int virtio_can_read_tx_queue(struct virtqueue *vq)
> > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > + struct virtio_can_priv *can_priv = vq->vdev->priv;
> > > > > > > + struct net_device *dev = can_priv->dev;
> > > > > > > + struct virtio_can_tx *can_tx_msg;
> > > > > > > + struct net_device_stats *stats;
> > > > > > > + unsigned long flags;
> > > > > > > + unsigned int len;
> > > > > > > + u8 result;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > + stats = &dev->stats;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > + /* Protect list and virtio queue operations */
> > > > > > > + spin_lock_irqsave(&can_priv->tx_lock, flags);
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > + can_tx_msg = virtqueue_get_buf(vq, &len);
> > > > > > > + if (!can_tx_msg) {
> > > > > > > +         spin_unlock_irqrestore(&can_priv->tx_lock, flags);
> > > > > > > +         return 0; /* No more data */
> > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > + if (unlikely(len < sizeof(struct virtio_can_tx_in))) {
> > > > > > > +         netdev_err(dev, "TX ACK: Device sent no result code\n");
> > > > > > > +         result = VIRTIO_CAN_RESULT_NOT_OK; /* Keep things going 
> > > > > > > */
> > > > > > > + } else {
> > > > > > > +         result = can_tx_msg->tx_in.result;
> > > > > > > + }
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > + if (can_priv->can.state < CAN_STATE_BUS_OFF) {
> > > > > > > +         /* Here also frames with result != VIRTIO_CAN_RESULT_OK 
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > +          * echoed. Intentional to bring a waiting process in an 
> > > > > > > upper
> > > > > > > +          * layer to an end.
> > > > > > > +          * TODO: Any better means to indicate a problem here?
> > > > > > > +          */
> > > > > > > +         if (result != VIRTIO_CAN_RESULT_OK)
> > > > > > > +                 netdev_warn(dev, "TX ACK: Result = %u\n", 
> > > > > > > result);
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Maybe an error frame reporting CAN_ERR_CRTL_UNSPEC would be better?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure. In xilinx_can.c, CAN_ERR_CRTL_UNSPEC is indicated 
> > > > > during
> > > > > a problem in the rx path and this is the tx path. I think the comment
> > > > > refers to improving the way the driver informs this error to the user
> > > > > but I may be wrong.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Since we have no detail of what went wrong here, I suggested
> > > > CAN_ERR_CRTL_UNSPEC as it is "unspecified error", to be coupled with a
> > > > controller error with id CAN_ERR_CRTL; however, a different error might 
> > > > be
> > > > more appropriate.
> > > > 
> > > > For sure, at least in my experience, having a warn printed to kmsg is 
> > > > *not*
> > > > enough, as the application sending the message(s) would not be able to 
> > > > detect
> > > > the error.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > For sure, counting the known errors as valid tx_packets and tx_bytes
> > > > > > is misleading.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll remove the counters below.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We don't really know what's wrong here - the packet might have been 
> > > > sent and
> > > > and then not ACK'ed, as well as any other error condition (as it 
> > > > happens in the
> > > > reference implementation from the original authors [1]). Echoing the 
> > > > packet
> > > > only "to bring a waiting process in an upper layer to an end" and 
> > > > incrementing
> > > > counters feels wrong, but maybe someone more expert than me can advise 
> > > > better
> > > > here.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree. IIUC, in case there has been a problem during transmission, I
> > > should 1) indicate this by injecting a CAN_ERR_CRTL_UNSPEC package with
> > > netif_rx() and 2) use can_free_echo_skb() and increment the tx_error
> > > stats. Is this correct?
> > > 
> > > Matias
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > That's my understanding too! stats->tx_dropped should be the right value to
> > increment (see for example [1]).
> > 
> > [1] 
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.17.3/source/drivers/net/can/ctucanfd/ctucanfd_base.c#L1035
> > 
> 
> I think the counter to increment would be stats->tx_errors in this case ...
> 

I don't fully agree. tx_errors is for CAN frames that got transmitted but then
lead to an error (e.g.: no ACK), while here we might be dealing with frames
that didn't even manage to reach the transmission queue [1].

An exception to this may arise when the VIRTIO_CAN_F_CAN_LATE_TX_ACK feature
is negotiated; in this case, a VIRTIO_CAN_RESULT_NOT_OK may indicate either a
dropped frame (tx_dropped) or a failed transmission (tx_error) [2].



[1] 
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/blob/master/device-types/can/description.tex#L139
 
[2] 
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/blob/master/device-types/can/description.tex#L196


BR,
Francesco





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