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Guillaume Nodet edited comment on MNG-8569 at 3/7/25 9:43 AM: -------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I'm suggesting to change the behavior or ranges, but there's no equivalent right now. I think there are two main cases for using a range as I explained: * you want to use the latest version, but you're lazy and don't want to change your POM when you release a new parent or dependency and you want the upgrade to be done without having to change the pom * you want to restrict the possible version used for some other reasons The first use case is what we want to avoid, it makes build not reproducible, etc... I think the second one is legit and should be preserved. There are 3 things when using a range: * the selected version must belong to the range * the selected version is subject to version conflict resolution * the version selected is the highest from the range When you specify {{[2.1,3)}}, the resolver will list repositories to find the _highest_ version in that range, and pick it. When you write your POM, maybe there are {{2.1}} and {{2.2}}, but as you suggest, anyone could release {{2.99}} and it would be picked up _automatically_. I'm proposing to remove this very behavior of checking remote repos for the highest version. The behavior would be to just use {{2.1}} as usual, but with the additional constraint that conflict resolution can not end up selecting version {{3.0}} as it's outside the range. An extended syntax could support selecting a different (but always explicit) version by default, maybe something like {{2.2;[2.1,3.0)}} which would mean: version is by default {{2.2}}, unless a conflict resolution changes that, but restrict the version to {{[2.1,3.0)}} range. was (Author: gnt): Yes, I'm suggesting to change the behavior or ranges, but there's no equivalent right now. I think there are two main cases for using a range as I explained: * you want to use the latest version, but you're lazy and don't want to change your POM when you release a new parent or dependency and you want the upgrade to be done without having to change the pom * you want to restrict the possible version used for some other reasons The first use case is what we want to avoid, it makes build not reproducible, etc... I think the second one is legit and should be preserved. There are two things when using a range: * the selected version must belong to the range * the selected version is subject to version conflict resolution * the version selected is the highest from the range When you specify {{[2.1,3)}}, the resolver will list repositories to find the _highest_ version in that range, and pick it. When you write your POM, maybe there are {{2.1}} and {{2.2}}, but as you suggest, anyone could release {{2.99}} and it would be picked up _automatically_. I'm proposing to remove this very behavior of checking remote repos for the highest version. The behavior would be to just use {{2.1}} as usual, but with the additional constraint that conflict resolution can not end up selecting version {{3.0}} as it's outside the range. An extended syntax could support selecting a different (but always explicit) version by default, maybe something like {{2.2;[2.1,3.0)}} which would mean: version is by default {{2.2}}, unless a conflict resolution changes that, but restrict the version to {{[2.1,3.0)}} range. > Deprecate and remove version ranges > ----------------------------------- > > Key: MNG-8569 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-8569 > Project: Maven > Issue Type: Improvement > Reporter: Elliotte Rusty Harold > Priority: Critical > > To protect Maven users, we should eliminate, or at the very least warn, when > version ranges are used in dependency elements. See > [https://jlbp.dev/JLBP-14] for the rationale. tldr; version ranges make > projects vulnerable to malicious changes of ownership in dependencies that > can lead to remotely exploitable arbitrary code execution. I'd rate this > about a 9.0 on the severity scale. > I don't know of an attack using this vector in Java (yet) but it has > been used multiple times in other ecosystems to steal bitcoins and > install malware. Java has been lucky so far, but we are by no means > immune to it. > Since this is a compatibility breaking change, which I don't take likely but > IMHO is worth it in this case, use a multi-step process: > # Discourage this in the docs for version ranges, especially the POM > reference. > # Warn about this in the build when version ranges are encountered. > # Formally deprecate the relevant code in the repo. (Might not be necessary.) > # Add a switch (system property) to disable version ranges. Switch is off by > default. > # Turn the switch on by default. > # Remove the switch. > This might take a few years, so let's start now. It's also possible an active > attack will push us to do this overnight. If we start now, maybe we'll be > lucky enough to avoid emergency responses in the future. > > -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.20.10#820010)