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Kathleen Hilston commented on LUCENE-9961:
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Also, we have received the following reply to our email from another member of 
the group, see below:

{color:#0747a6}from  ANDREI SOLODIN 
{color}[[email protected]|mailto:[email protected]]

{color:#0747a6}Hello, I am also keenly interested in Lucene performance on 
NFS/EFS. I have an extensive experience with a another (proprietory) search 
engine successfully using NFS for indexing/search. In our case, the key has 
always been making sure that a large portion of the index is in the host page 
cache, limiting the impact of indexing/merging on cache invalidation, warmup 
etc. Yes, there would always be scenarios where a specific query would suddenly 
cause many hard page faults, in which case careful attention to NFS client 
peformance tuning can help (attribute caching, rsize, etc) as well as kernel 
tuning. Whether or not the file is mmaped also makes a difference. In our 
experience mmaped file triggers larger read-ahead in the kernel and so can put 
a higher burden on the NFS server. Generally the spikes can be tolerated with 
few queries affected as long as many servers don't hit NFS all at once, 
essentially causing a DDOS scenario. So I am very interested in your response 
that having a Lucene on EFS is bad design. There are many advantages to this 
architecture, since it completely decouples the index data storage from the 
servers hosting the search service. Is there some specific aspect of Lucene 
that makes this approach impractical? Is there specific features in Lucene 8 
that are more likely to affect this? I don't have a ton of experience with 
Lucene, but I have seen behavior where query cache can cause spikes due to it 
caching subquery results. If the subquery is very board, it could potentially 
overload the NFS server (this was in Lucene 6 though so take with a grain of 
salt).{color}

{color:#0747a6} {color}

{color:#0747a6}To the OP: I don't have 8.6 code, but based on 8.8 source, I 
believe you may be looking at the wrong thread. The thread that is actually 
doing the reads would be running in the executor pool.{color}

{color:#0747a6} {color}

{color:#0747a6}Thanks{color}

{color:#0747a6}Andrei{color}

 

> Lucene 8 causing app server threads to hang due to high rate of network usage
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-9961
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9961
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Kathleen Hilston
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: image-2021-05-17-10-47-42-245.png, 
> image-2021-05-17-10-48-35-739.png
>
>
> *Issue*: Lucene 8 causing app server threads to hang due to high rate of 
> network usage.
>  
> *Further details*: Recently we migrated from Lucene 7.5.0 to Lucene 8.6.3 and 
> we have encountered severe performance issues after this upgrade.  Our Lucene 
> index has multilingual terms, is large in size, and is hosted on a network 
> file storage (EFS at AWS).  Our Lucene queries construct a lot of Boolean 
> term queries, and we suspect the off-heap FST introduced with Lucene 8 could 
> be the root cause.  The specific issue we are facing after the Lucene upgrade 
> is that, when a user searches for any given term, the tomcat server thread 
> will hang while reading the bytes from an unexpectedly huge inbound flow of 
> data from the Lucene Index on network storage.  We have seen inbound data 
> flows ranging from 5% up to 45% of the total index size for a single search, 
> primarily when searching for a term in a different language.  This issue does 
> not occur with Lucene 7.
>  
> Here is a typical call stack highlighting the point of contention in the 
> Tomcat threads when we encounter this performance issue:
>  
> org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search(IndexSearcher.java:432)
> org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.searchAfter(IndexSearcher.java:421)
> org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search(IndexSearcher.java:574)
> org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search(IndexSearcher.java:445)
> org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search(IndexSearcher.java:658)
> org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanWeight.bulkScorer(BooleanWeight.java:330)
> org.apache.lucene.search.Weight.bulkScorer(Weight.java:181)
> org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanWeight.scorer(BooleanWeight.java:344)
> org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanWeight.scorerSupplier(BooleanWeight.java:379)
> org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanWeight.scorerSupplier(BooleanWeight.java:379)
> org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanWeight.scorerSupplier(BooleanWeight.java:379)
> org.apache.lucene.search.Weight.scorerSupplier(Weight.java:147)
> org.apache.lucene.search.TermQuery$TermWeight.scorer(TermQuery.java:115)
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.blocktree.SegmentTermsEnum.impacts(SegmentTermsEnum.java:1017)
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.lucene84.Lucene84PostingsReader.impacts(Lucene84PostingsReader.java:272)
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.lucene84.Lucene84PostingsReader$BlockImpactsDocsEnum.<init>(Lucene84PostingsReader.java:1061)
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.lucene84.Lucene84SkipReader.init(Lucene84SkipReader.java:103)
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.MultiLevelSkipListReader.init(MultiLevelSkipListReader.java:208)
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.MultiLevelSkipListReader.loadSkipLevels(MultiLevelSkipListReader.java:229)
> org.apache.lucene.store.DataInput.readVLong(DataInput.java:190)
> org.apache.lucene.store.DataInput.readVLong(DataInput.java:205)
> org.apache.lucene.store.ByteBufferIndexInput.readByte(ByteBufferIndexInput.java:80)
> org.apache.lucene.store.ByteBufferGuard.getByte(ByteBufferGuard.java:99)
>  
> When researching found the LUCENE JIRA LUCENE-8635 (which is referenced in 
> [https://www.elastic.co/blog/whats-new-in-lucene-8] section ‘Moving the terms 
> dictionary off-heap’).  Would this help the issue?
>  
> Please advise.



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