Not to Jeffery specifically,
I have mixed feelings about the whole situation. I think Roland is right, or at least has a valid point most of the time, even if it is technical or limited to a specific use case. However his speech is often hyperbolic, absolutust, and not really tolerant of any other opinion.
I think licensing, project direction, and other "soft" discussions ARE appropriate for "qt-interest" mailing list. I don't think the hyperbole is appropriate though.
Maybe the answer is another mailing list, "qt-offtopic" or whatever, and we can say that such hyperbole is appropriate there, but not here. I do appreciate the comments that for people looking for a dense, tenchical resource, the hyperbole is diluting.
I hope Giuseppe comes back. He's been fantastic.
Personally, I don't understand why if he hates it so much he participates the way he does? It seems like ge's mobing away from Qt on his own? I suspect that he probably won't return after the ban.
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:12 AM
From: "Jeffrey Brendecke" <jeffrey.brende...@gmail.com>
To: interest@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
From: "Jeffrey Brendecke" <jeffrey.brende...@gmail.com>
To: interest@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
I, too, am one of those list lurkers looking for interesting information and discussions on Qt, but all too often I instead see posts from one unpleasant person repeatedly dominating discussions with belligerent, non-productive rantings. I wonder why he even uses Qt or even spends time thinking about it.
Given that there is at least one large development company in the US making money off using Qt on medical devices, among others, I think that this one difficult person is definitely not the sole fountain of knowledge on the subject and should not be given more credence than necessary. If Qt has short-comings in the medical device realm, constructive discussion would bring more than infantile rants. He would have done better to convince the Qt Company to hire him on as a consultant to improve their technology for use on medical devices, as that seems to be something the company wants to be successful in. Instead, I would not want to go anywhere near the guy
I have experienced Giuseppe D'Angelo as a fabulous, caring instructor and am sorry to see him leave this discussion. All of us are the poorer because of it.
If any person's postings on this list (or really in any context) are causing excellent contributors like Giuseppe to leave, then that is a very good indication that that person needs to be removed from the list.
Jeffrey
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_______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interestOn Apr 29, 2021, at 21:30, Rui Oliveira <rui...@hotmail.com> wrote:And so we lost one of the most active, contributing, and knowledgeable members of this mailing list.
Cue "the worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere" meme.
I was thinking of putting him in CC but I don't think I should bother the man.
I sure did respect Giuseppe, and I can totally get behind his no-BS personality.
With wishes of talking about code again,
RuiÀs 09:22 de 29/04/2021, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest escreveu:On 29/04/2021 00:42, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest wrote:_______________________________________________If the answer is yes, you were lying. If the answer is no, or you don't
answer, then you're trolling the mailing list. You'll get my apology;
I'll even throw in, for free, my personal congratulations for the long
trolling. But, you'll get a nice permanent ban from here.
No reply. Yes, you're not the only one who can set arbitrary deadlines for other people, pal.
I'll just go with the script then: you DID believe those links to be true.
Then, please accept my deepest and most sincere apologies for calling you a liar.
I'll state it again, very clearly, all uppercase:
YOU NEVER LIED. I WAS WRONG.
Please accept the attached fruit basket as a gesture of good will.
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Where does this leave us, then?
At BEST, you have been trolling the mailing list, sending inflammatory false content with the purpose of getting a strong reaction from the participants.
At WORST, you have demonstrated some abysmal gross incompetence, since in order to win an argument you:
* googled some keywords;
* got the first couple of links that seemed to match your thesis;
* didn't even bother to read the contents;
* pasted the links here believing they were true, without questioning the veracity of such explosive statements;
* when busted, dug your hole even deeper by keeping arguing in that direction.
(...I'm not alone about bringing this possibility forward...)
Spoiler alert, the links were April fools' jokes. They have never been true, and it was even written in the articles that they were jokes. With such precedents, why should anyone believe *any* other argument you bring forward?
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In either case, it is abundantly clear who's full of shit around here.
It is also clear to me that moderation on this list doesn't exist, or if it exists, it doesn't want to get sides, and/or considers these behaviours acceptable.
I don't. And I don't send ultimatums or threats of libel lawsuits (seriously?) around, including to the moderators, in order to force them to make a move.
Hence, I'll be removing myself from this list, effective immediately.
You win. Audience claps. Curtains.
Ad astra per aspera,
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