Qt is free on desktop, but it is not free on mobile, which is a real showstopper for me and many others.
Le mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 20:12, ich <a...@golks.de> a écrit : > Qt is free, too. > > Am February 19, 2019 7:04:03 PM UTC schrieb Sylvain Pointeau < > sylvain.point...@gmail.com>: >> >> I cannot get it copied in the email, but the code in the section get >> started has no "new" but I agree with you that it is not "declarative" >> >> The positive points about flutter is that it is free, and intellij (IDEA) >> is so great. >> However, it feels too young, and limited to mobile (some are saying that >> the desktop is coming, but nothing concrete yet) >> >> react native (via react xp) seems to be a better alternative for now. >> >> Best regards, >> Sylvain >> >> >> Le mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 19:43, Jason H <jh...@gmx.com> a écrit : >> >>> It's still on the home page: https://flutter.io/ "Fast Development" >>> I operate on the "read at least the first page" premise. That whatever >>> they think is most important should be found there. >>> >>> But losing new doesn't really change my opinion of if it's declarative >>> or not. >>> >>> Thanks for the update/correction though. >>> >>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:34 PM >>> *From:* "Sylvain Pointeau" <sylvain.point...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* "Qt Project" <interest@qt-project.org> >>> *Subject:* [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter >>> the "new" is now removed in dart 2.0 so you example is outdated. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Message transféré --------- >>> De : Jason H <jh...@gmx.com> >>> Date : mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 19:25 >>> Objet : Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter >>> À : Bernhard B <schluc...@gmail.com> >>> CC : <inter...@lists.qt-project.org> >>> >>> I'm in your offtopic camp. >>> Everything is going Declarative. I really hate that web devevlopment >>> requires the use of HTML/CSS/JS (that's just client side) and some >>> Framework of the Month. The JavaScript kiddies love inventing frameworks >>> for fame and profit rather than picking one and making it better. >>> Fragmentation is rampant. On top of that JS is slow to change, it just >>> becomes a runtime that your flavor-of-the-month framework compiles down to, >>> well until WebAssembly. >>> >>> Rene, I don't understand why you don't declare Flutter Declarative? From >>> the Flutter home page: >>> Widget build(BuildContext context) { >>> return new Scaffold ( >>> appBar: new AppBar ( title: new Text (widget.title), ), >>> body: new Center ( >>> child: new Text( "Button clicked" ... >>> ), >>> ), >>> } >>> >>> Good luck typing 'new' and 'return' a lot. At least QML manages that for >>> you. QML is the sleekest of all the declarative languages. >>> >>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM >>> *From:* "Bernhard B" <schluc...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* "Bob Hood" <bho...@comcast.net> >>> *Cc:* "René Hansen" <ren...@gmail.com>, "Jason H" <jh...@gmx.com>, >>> inter...@lists.qt-project.org >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter >>> > I've been studying it for a while now, and I've decided that it will >>> likely be >>> my mobile development language. I love Qt to death for desktop, but I've >>> never been able to take to it's declarative approach. I know others >>> swear by >>> it, but it just never fit my brain waves for some reason. >>> >>> <offtopic> >>> I guess I am one of those persons, who absolutely LOVE Qt's declarative >>> language. >>> I like QML so much, that I even started looking for QML -> HTML/CSS >>> translators. While I really like QML, >>> I absolutely hate HTML and CSS (never got used to its quirks). I mean >>> there are some attempts like >>> qmlcore (https://github.com/pureqml/qmlcore), but I haven't tried those >>> yet. >>> </offtopic> >>> >>> Am Di., 19. Feb. 2019 um 18:47 Uhr schrieb Bob Hood <bho...@comcast.net >>> >: >>> >>>> On 2/18/2019 7:40 AM, René Hansen wrote: >>>> > I've not come across any myself, and have only built a few small >>>> things with >>>> > it a bit for now. >>>> > >>>> > Initial reactions was that it is *leagues* ahead of Qt with regards to >>>> > developer experience. You're not locked to an IDE, like with >>>> QtCreator, and >>>> > the ui live updates across device, simulators, emulators etc. when >>>> you write >>>> > changes. No need to build and .apk and wait for a build+deploy. >>>> > >>>> > There's no JS involved. It's Dart all the way. It doesn't even ship >>>> with a >>>> > web runtime afaik. >>>> >>>> I've been studying it for a while now, and I've decided that it will >>>> likely be >>>> my mobile development language. I love Qt to death for desktop, but >>>> I've >>>> never been able to take to it's declarative approach. I know others >>>> swear by >>>> it, but it just never fit my brain waves for some reason. >>>> >>>> I saw somebody in this thread moan about it being yet another language >>>> to >>>> learn. Putting aside the fact that a robust developer should know more >>>> than >>>> one, Dart is quite familiar to anybody who has used a modern scripting >>>> language (e.g., Python). >>>> >>>> For me personally, Flutter's "feel" just fits mobile better in my mind >>>> than Qt. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Interest mailing list >>>> Interest@qt-project.org >>>> https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Interest mailing list >>> Interest@qt-project.org >>> https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest >>> _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list >>> Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest >>> >> > -- > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Interest@qt-project.org > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest >
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