On 16/02/18 16:53, Bob Hood wrote:
I want to thank all the respondents for such an interesting discussion.
I think René made some interesting observations regarding the massive
community support for JS in term of package managers, frameworks and UI
toolkits. I think that is something that really presents a high bar of
entry for QML, that everybody wanting to use it must basically roll
their own. As I pointed out, coming from a widget-rich environment to
something where I must create my own has always kept me from adopting
QML as my cross-device framework of choice. I have to focus on writing
the interface itself first before I can focus on writing my application
logic.With widgets, I drop them in, and only focus on interface writing
if I want to customize them.
Nikos pointed out:
Electron forces you to write the entire application in JS.
That kind of struck me. All of JavaScript's flaws notwithstanding, how
could writing your application in a single language for all target
devices be a bad thing?
My application is not the most important thing in my user's life. Many
developers think the app they ship is *THE* most important app for their
users. So it's OK if it eats up half a GB of RAM more and burns CPU
cycles for nothing, or runs like a pig on low-end or old computers, or
looks alien on their desktop. The app is so important that these
sacrifices are justified.
The "my app is a precious special little snowflake, so it's OK" attitude
is what makes Electron popular.
The user's life doesn't revolve around my app. It's just one app out of
dozens or hundreds they're using. If all applications were using
Electron, then each one of them would eat up half a GB more RAM, burn
CPU cycles for nothing and run like pigs on low-end computers, and
computing would turn into a shit-show quickly.
Also, take off the developer hat and just view yourself as a user. Would
you like it if *all* your applications were suddenly Electron apps?
(With everything that entails, including their look&feel.) Great, huh?
And no, you don't get to say "but not all applications are Electon apps,
just mine is, because it needs to." Your app *is not a precious little
snowflake*.
So I wouldn't want to ship stuff that I wouldn't use myself, if I can
help it. The only Electron apps I use are those where I can't find any
viable alternatives. Surely that's not a good developer-user
relationship to have, if your users are just waiting for the first
opportunity to jump ship.
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