Am 23.06.16 um 08:57 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 07:15, ekke <e...@ekkes-corner.org> wrote:
>>
>> thx Maurice,
>>
>> Am 22.06.16 um 12:22 schrieb Maurice Kalinowski:
>>>> Highest prio from my personal perspective:
>>>>>> - Background processing API
>>>>>> - In-app Notifications: local, remote
>>>> + add Windows Store to Qt Purchasing module
>> there's more missing:
>> - avoid flicker for android apps out-of-the-box
> What does that mean, just the initial appearance at startup? 
yep. would be great to start Android Apps without flicker by default.
Now I must follow instructions like this:
https://medium.com/@benlaud/complete-guide-to-make-a-splash-screen-for-your-qml-android-application-567ca3bc70af#.demzldbe9

>  My pet peeve is that startup of Qt Android apps takes too long, compared to 
> Java apps.  Ironically it's Java apps that are too slow on desktop platforms. 
>  So I just wish I had a modern Qt-based phone, so that there’s one copy of 
> the libs in memory already.  Apps would be small and fast.
yep :) How fast this can be I know from BlackBerry10 Cascades/Qt/QML
apps. But I have to look forward and provide x-platform apps for
Android/iOS (perhaps W10 later)
>
>> - easy way to 'share' content with/from other apps (Intents, Deep Linking) 
>> Android, iOS
>> such common use-cases should be abstracted and available via Qt API
> Yes but it should be good, portable, future-proof API, to be worthwhile.  
> Ideally even portable between desktops and mobiles.  It’s hard to predict the 
> future, too.  There is a disconnect that on desktop platforms you share by 
> saving files in one application and re-opening in another, or via the 
> clipboard, or drag-and-drop, whereas on mobile platforms this stuff got 
> re-invented.  I’m not sure if it’s an improvement: applications seem mostly 
> isolated now, effectively.  Not that I’ve tried very hard to use a tablet for 
> office-y stuff, but I’m not sure if everything that was possible on the 
> desktop is possible on those platforms.  If you extend the platform to 
> include cloud services (since not all data is even stored locally, I guess 
> it’s supposed to mean that inter-app sharing must include sharing of access 
> to data which is stored only on the cloud), do you trust them: are they 
> secure? are they going to still be there in a few years?  will they continue 
> to have a gazillion non-interoperable ways to do similar stuff?  How much 
> abstraction can we do, to make sharing locally or via the cloud look similar? 
>  Would you dare to start a university degree program for example, and do all 
> your work only on a tablet?  If you do that, can you still open anything that 
> you did in a decade or two?  If the inter-app sharing mechanisms are 
> hindering people from getting work done, maybe they will be re-invented 
> again?  So it seems hard to create APIs now that won’t look foolish in 
> retrospect later on.
>
> The file abstraction is nice because of being so universal.  Even cloud 
> storage (with offline caching) can be done by making it a virtual filesystem. 
>  Yet the file abstraction does seem long in the tooth, because we no longer 
> rely on hard disks as much, and installing flash memory as a “disk” instead 
> of “memory” is so arbitrary - it will end some day, especially if most memory 
> ends up being non-volatile eventually.  But what is the long-term-stable 
> replacement for the hierarchical filesystem?  Will we keep using it just 
> because it’s such a human-friendly metaphor?  Or will sharing between all 
> apps end up looking more like today’s mobile APIs, where you first have to 
> open one app, and select the data, and “send” it to another; or, one app 
> invokes another to “pull” something?  I guess the reason is that active 
> transfer between apps which are both running at the same time is deemed more 
> secure than passive file-reading.  Or is there another reason?  But the 
> protocols for that data transfer seem like shifting sand to me.
from my enterprise customers requirements for x-platform android/ios:
* support for incoming intents: employee opens a file (pdf, image, ...)
and can open this one with Qt App to upload to server or so
* support for outgoing intents: employee downloads file from server,
then wants to open this one in Acrobat to read pdf, etc
there are more use-cases for open-in-map (Google, here), open Phone-Call
from phone-number, ...
For my customers security is no question because app is running on BES12
server and AndroidForWork / SamsungKNOX on Android and
secure-VPN-connection on iOS 9.x - so the app has only restricted access
inside work data

>  
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-36015 has links to some lower-level 
> tasks like support for intents, anyway.
>
thx mentioning this. will read through and add comments / bugreports.

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