Thank you Tony for the overview. Very interesting. I added your reply to my personal Wiki. Is there a public Qt CI Wiki? This overview might be nice to add to it for others to find.
The complexity of your CI system is very impressive. I expect you have a most challenging job to keep the CI system running smoothly. On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Sarajärvi Tony <tony.saraja...@theqtcompany.com<mailto:tony.saraja...@theqtcompany.com>> wrote: >I'll try to answer your questions regarding the new Coin CI briefly here. I cannot find any reference to “Coin CI”. Is this an open source or commercial tool? A Qt internal tool? So the underlying hardware we have will not be touched. Our hardware will still consist of a farm of Blades (servers will multiple cores and lots of RAM) and Mac Minis taking care of the OS X builds. All these, including Mac minis, are connected to a Compellent SAN where we store everything. We run vSphere ESXi Bare-Metal hypervisors on the hardware and run virtual machines on top of that. After considering E-bay spelunking for old Mac Pro dual-Xeons I settled for a Mac Mini (Late 2014) with ESXi 6. I wish Apple made server-class hardware. I *do* appreciate the convenience of a single OS X build VM capable of building Qt app targets for Android, iOS, and OS X. The thing that now changes is that we remove Jenkins from the CI. Previously we had ~300 virtual machines up and running 24/7 that were distributed to handle different operating systems. This distribution was fixed, which meant that platform A might have been queuing for hardware, whereas we had plenty to spare designated for platform B. The new system will not have any virtual machiens up and running, if no build is running. As soon as anyone stages something in codereview, we will start creating new virtual machines on the fly for those requested platforms. Wow! That’s impressive. Sounds very environmental friendly too. So you have multiple OVF VM templates on your SAN that you deploy dynamically? Like one OVF for VS2012, one for VS2015, etc? Second thing that changes is what we actually rebuild. With Jenkins we rebuilt all prerequisites every time. Imagine a commit staged for QtBase. We had to verify that commit on Windows 7 VS2012, Windows 7 VS2013, Windows 8.1 VS2015, Windows 7 MinGW 4.9.x, Ubuntu 14.04, openSUSE, OSX 10.8, OSX 10.9, Android, iOS, QNX 650 etc. The combined number platforms tested every time was around 30. Now, imagine something being staged to QtDeclarative. QtDeclarative requires QtBased to be built before itself. So our old CI downloaded QtBase sources and built those before proceeding with QtDeclarative. The new CI has stored the binaries created by the last QtBase build, so it only has to download a tarball from our internal storage and directly proceed with QtDeclarative. That again, stores its binaries to the storage. This will save a lot of time building these later modules. Only this example saved us from building QtBase 30 times. Sounds like a huge time saver. Things we can also tune more with the new CI is what kind of VMs we create. For smaller Qt Modules that don't benefit much of having multiple cores reserved for them, get VMs that have perhaps only 2 vCPUs. That must optimize you VM host resources substatially plus environmental friendly. We have also split up testing as its own task. This means that even though building might get 8 vCPUs, testing that module might only get 2 or 4 again. We have also planned on splitting up testing to several VMs where possible, so that tests can be run more in parallel than before, thus increasing the throughput of the CI. Things you will notice being different are the comments in codereview. The systems create slightly different log outputs, but as the underlying compilers and test libraries are the same, compilation and autotest logs will remain the same. Links to logs however differ in that previously we had incremental build numbers generated by Jenkins, and now we have SHA1's created by Coin representing the content that was actually built. Regarding device support, being it Android or iOS, or any embedded for that matter, the situation doesn't really change. We worked upon getting those platforms into the Jenkins CI, but never got so far with stabilizing the environment that we could use those in enforcing codereview commits. Those devices were only used internally for testing the state of modules periodically. The new Coin CI will support them eventually, and here I have to say 'as well', because they might still be for internal verification only. Mainly because it takes so much time to run tests on them currently. As we support splitting up the test set to several devices and do testing in parallel, we might be able to include device testing already for commits being staged in codereview. Puppet itself is a way of maintaining virtual machines once they are up and running, or to initially deploy software on a clean OS. The static machines we had were maintained via Puppet, but now that we reclone VMs from a template machine, we don't have to update and maintain several machines simultaneously. It's just enough that we update the template (master VM) and all subsequent clones will have the updated software. I should research Puppet for clean OS build machine creation for OS X, Windows, and Linux. I really liked RHEL kickstart file for the purpose. Perhaps Puppet can be used to provide a similar solution for other platforms. >For documentation purposes what we actually have installed, we have been >playing around with installer scripts that take care of provisioning a clean >slate OS with everything we need, but with mixed results. The scripts >themselves take a lot of time writing, and they have to be maintained. But >they are an asset if we want to install everything from scratch. If any 3rd >party wants to duplicate our current OS's, they have to rely on the Qt Wiki >pages for each branch listing the requirements to build Qt. I used Red Hat Enterprise Linux kickstart files to create my clean build VMs from scratch. This worked well but the bash shell scripting did take a lot of time to get it right. In my current work I Windows and OS X build VMs. I would not know where to start to create clean slate OS installer scripts for these platforms. Maybe Puppet. 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