On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Justin Ferguson wrote: > For me personally i don't overly see perl as an issue, on that side of things > i agree with Thiago, what are you doing compiling qt without the proper tools?
The point is that I did not NEED perl to compile Qt 4.x based on the sources downloaded from the Qt-project site. So I had all the "proper" tools. Now that Qt 5 needs perl I guess I am missing a tool. I'll get the process started and let you know next year how it went. -- MJ > > For me, its more akin to, okay we remove perl and then it's the next issue > and then the next and so on. > > They loathe windows, that's the correct answer and in earnest as a non-paying > customer that's fine/fair.Support will always suck for that platform. You can > fix it but you'd first need to fork it, which is sorta a fork it all type > situation. > > On Apr 10, 2013 3:42 PM, "Michael Jackson" <imikejack...@gmail.com> wrote: > As much as I just went off the deep end on Thiago let's look at it from the > Qt devs point of view. Say they really do want to get rid of the perl thing > and rewrite what the perl script did in C++ so it can be compiled during the > configure process like qmake. > > Who actually is going to step up to do this? Who has the time. I bitch and > complain but I certainly do NOT have the time right now. I have paying > customers that are demanding my attention not to mention family life. So then > we turn to Digia to get it done. But they will not without a _Paying_ > customer to foot the development costs. And no one here is going to foot that > bill. > > BUT... > > What if we took this to a "Kickstarter" like process. if those of us who > want to get rid of Perl are willing to cough up some money I bet we _could_ > foot the bill to make the conversion from Perl to C++. Who we get to do it is > up for discussion. There are more than a few Qt Devs that need the extra work. > > Just food for thought. (Trying to help find a solution instead of just > bitching...) > --- > Mike J. > > PS - Yes I top posted. Want that to be read. > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Justin Ferguson wrote: > > > >And yes: The best way would be a >mail to the commercial support... > > > > I've always had a severe distaste for those sorts of arguments that turn > > OSS/FS into a form of semi-crippled shareware where if i want it to work i > > have to pay; which often enough turns into "travel insurance": insured > > against all the reasons you probably wont miss your flight (acts of god v. > > Lost taxi driver) > > > > On Apr 10, 2013 3:25 PM, "Christian Dähn" <da...@asinteg.de> wrote: > > > On 04/10/2013 10:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > And just because a "majority" download the installer does not mean > > > > "ALL". It is YOUR JOB AS A Qt DEVELOPER/MAINTAINER to make MY life > > > > easier. That is your job. > > > > > > > > > > I think you made a mistake and sent this email to an opensource > > > project's mailing list instead of to your Sysadmin. > > > > In this special case he is right because he addresses Thiago (who works for > > Digia and is partly responsible for the problems we commercial customers > > have to suffer with the new Qt 5 policies). > > > > And yes: The best way would be a mail to the commercial support... > > > > But: Even the commercial support currently does nothing else as just > > creating a public issue in the Qt-Project bugtracker ;-) > > > > Currently commercial customers more and more are less important and have > > the same priority as any user of the opensource releases... sorry, my > > experiences especially in the last weeks... > > > > Sadly none of the devs at Digia seems to have experiences with IT and > > project structures of industrial and enterprise structures / companies - > > that leads to such biased discussions... like a fight between commercial > > (Windows) customers and the Qt devs (Linux/Mac users). > > > > ciao, > > Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Interest mailing list > > Interest@qt-project.org > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Interest mailing list > > Interest@qt-project.org > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest > > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Interest@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest
