Sorry, hit the send button too soon! 

Elastic panels could help bit perhaps adapting the style would be better. A 
mesh or sports corset might provide enough give while also providing enough 
support for the period. 

Lastly, would be a style that would not need a corset. Perhaps the light boning 
of the dress bodice would be enough? 

Michael Deibert
OAS AAS LLS
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> On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:04, Maggie Koenig <hhalb94...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> I've costumed singers and dancers before and if you take their chest 
> measurements with them at rest and them at a full breath there can be a 
> rather large difference. Their corsets are likely made for a resting breath 
> measurement so it is restricting them from taking as deep a breath as they 
> are used to when they play. Actual performers in the Victorian era were 
> corseted their entire lives and were trained to get the needed deep breaths 
> while corseted. 
> 
> What you will need to do is either find a dress style that can work without 
> the corset or you will want to create a corset that incorporates elastic 
> panels and/or elastic instead of a woven lacing string. The elastic will 
> stretch as they breath and move allowing them their full range. 
> 
> Maggie Koenig
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden <aylwe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I get told by musicians that they can't breathe - wind players and singers
>> can't get enough breath.
>> Cheers,
>> Aylwen
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 October 2013 16:42, Kim Baird <kba...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's perfectly possible to sit in a Victorian corset. Victorians did it all
>>> the time. It does have to fit correctly, however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:55 PM
>>> To: Historical Costume
>>> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking about Victorian fashion here. Are there any pictures of women
>>> sitting down playing music? I've seen women corsetted when standing up
>>> playing the violin, but how did they manage playing the piano? Or are my
>>> musicians complaining too much?
>>> I'm right at the beginning in my research so far.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Aylwen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21 October 2013 15:48, Elizabeth Jones
>>> <elizabethrjones2...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Aylwen,
>>>> What have you tried so far? If we know what's already been tried there
>>>> won't need to be any re-inventing of the wheel. For anything pre-1600
>>>> you are fairly safe to skip boning for anyone who isn't extremely high
>>>> fashion (and musicians paid to perform for a ball definitely weren't
>>>> high fashion) Elizabeth
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
>>>> <aylwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Friends
>>>>> Our dance group prides itself on wearing historically correct gowns
>>>>> and undergarments for our dance performances, but it is not
>>>>> comfortable for
>>>> our
>>>>> pianist and other musicians. I am exploring ways I can bone the
>>>>> bodices
>>>> of
>>>>> the gowns and still give sitting-down musicians breathing space -
>>>>> but
>>>> still
>>>>> have the garments look close-to-accurate. Can anyone offer me any
>>> advice?
>>>>> We costume from 1450 through to 1900 - all styles along the way.
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Aylwen
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