Thanks! Yes -- the John Bull does look like it. For some reason -- well, for the reason that it's shot VERY dark, mostly --I can't get a definitive image in my mind of how flared or not the hat is. The low topper is a nice hat, but it looks higher to me. Also in an hour of staring diligently at the hat on TV I'm pretty sure they've used more than one; one seemed to have the "telescope" crown of a modern porkpie, and one definitely doesn't. Which might help explain SOME of my confusion.
Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Sep 9, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Kim Baird wrote: > I think you're right about the dressage hat--very similar! I also think it > resembles the John Bull hat from Gentleman's Emporium > > Kim > > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On > Behalf Of Lauren Walker > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:45 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Copper > > I don't know -- looking at the 19th-century costume hatters, there are hats > they're calling "low derby" or "flat top derby" that look like it; > http://www.ushist.com/19th-century_mens_hats_f.shtml > it also looks like their "coachman" hats. > http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/000397.php?gclid=CPOTwuDJp7ICFUXf4Ao > dzA4Agg > > Most entertaining to me is that what it *really* looks like is a modern-day > women's dressage hat. > Dressage hat: > http://www.doversaddlery.com/wool-felt-dressage-hat-chrstys/p/X1-36035/ > > I get that it doesn't have the rounded crown of a modern-day derby or > bowler, but the 19th century versions were sometimes flat. > It doesn't look tall enough to me to be a top hat, however. > > Lauren M. Walker > lauren.wal...@comcast.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
