Thanks everyon for your help. I may need to re-think my plan I was hoping to make it in my group's heraldic colours (blue and gold) using stash fabrics as I've got just under a month to do this (plus fur doesn't naturally come in yellow). I guess I'll see what I can find in the way of fur or velvet and see if I can incorporate gold into the accessories (e.g. belt). My usual period is 16th century but there's an event themed around the Court of Burgundy at the end of June (and they have requested people come in 15th century) but the high waisted continental style doesn't work well for my figure so I thought that being an English visitor to the Burgundian court wouldn't be such a terrible thing (as Edward IV sister, Margaret, married the duke of Burgundy it seems fairly plausible especially around the time when the Tudors took over and a lot of Yorkist supporters fled to Margaret's court). Ever since I received it as a Christmas Present I've been looking at the new Tudor Tailor Queen's Servants book and thinking that late Yorkist to early Tudor would be fun to explore, so this seemed like a good excuse to move slightly out of my usual comfort zone. Last night I actually found an English woodcut that shows this style of dress worn with what the Queen's Servants calls a 'round bonnet' also shown here http://cadieux.mediumaevum.com/burgundian-loop.html (the picture with the caption "Augustine, La Cité de Dieu" illuminated by maître François) and thought that this would be easier than trying to make a hennin in such a short timeframe plus work out how to wear it.
Teena, your theory about the delay in fashion seems to hold true, the Queen is wearing a version of this style in the 1460s and the memorial brasses (which are generally gentry or wealthy merchant class) are a decade or 2 later. So, as I'm interested in the 1470s-80s, it seems to be about right. Sharon, Thanks for the effigy tip, I've found a couple of clues so far but unfortunately there seems to be a fashion for sideless surcotes on effigies of this period (though I doubt that's what they were wearing in real life) On 6/1/12, Sharon Collier <sha...@collierfam.com> wrote: > Do a Google image search for "effigies" or "medieval effigies" (or > whatever is the best name for the era you're looking for). There are loads > of photos of tomb effigies and the cool thing is, they're in 3-d, not just > flat like a painting or brass. > Sharon C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On > Behalf Of Elizabeth W > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:02 AM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: [h-cost] mid to late 15th century English women's clothing > > I'm seeking images of mid to late 15th century (Yorkist or early Henry VII > era) women's clothing in England > Thus far the only portrait I've found is Elizabeth Woodville > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElizabethWoodville.JPG I like that > slightly rounded neckline and the contrasting collar but I'm hoping to try > for something that would be more plausible lower down the social scale e.g. > gentry level best dress > I've found some brass rubbings e.g. > http://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/page245.html > http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1406326 > http://professor-moriarty.com/info/section/church-monument-art/15th-century- > church-monuments-thomas-andrewes-brass-church-charwelton-no > but they don't really help with fabric choice. I'm trying to find more > examples so that I can work out if Elizabeth Woodville's use of a plain > fabric for the gown and a fancier fabric for the collar and cuffs is normal > or an anomaly and especially if matching her mini hennin to the collar and > cuffs is normal (as I've got about 1/2 yd of silk which should just cover > the collar and cuffs but won't manage the hat as well) > > -- > ------------------------------------------ > Elizabeth Walpole > http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ > http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- ------------------------------------------ Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
