Not sure how many images are out there for England during that period. I heard that it was because so many were destroyed... something associated with the war. Not sure if that is true or not. I was briefly associated with a 15th century group (didn't join as we found out we were moving away) and they were portraying the lower social classes. For them, you would go back a few years in style as it trickled down to them. So if you are thinking of a period contemporary with the E Woodville portrait, you would not do the curved coller (unless you were very high class and fashionable) but the straight V as seen in the Burgundian portraits. For fabric on the lower classes, it was wool dresses trimmed in wool. For a little higher on the social scale, you might trim the wool gown in velvet as that would be very posh. Hope this helps! Teena
________________________________ From: Elizabeth W <elizabeth.r.walp...@gmail.com> To: Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:01 AM Subject: [h-cost] mid to late 15th century English women's clothing I'm seeking images of mid to late 15th century (Yorkist or early Henry VII era) women's clothing in England Thus far the only portrait I've found is Elizabeth Woodville http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElizabethWoodville.JPG I like that slightly rounded neckline and the contrasting collar but I'm hoping to try for something that would be more plausible lower down the social scale e.g. gentry level best dress I've found some brass rubbings e.g. http://www.mbs-brasses.co.uk/page245.html http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1406326 http://professor-moriarty.com/info/section/church-monument-art/15th-century-church-monuments-thomas-andrewes-brass-church-charwelton-no but they don't really help with fabric choice. I'm trying to find more examples so that I can work out if Elizabeth Woodville's use of a plain fabric for the gown and a fancier fabric for the collar and cuffs is normal or an anomaly and especially if matching her mini hennin to the collar and cuffs is normal (as I've got about 1/2 yd of silk which should just cover the collar and cuffs but won't manage the hat as well) -- ------------------------------------------ Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume