Beautiful, Zuzana!! Is that your fabric as well? I seem to recall you were going to be making reproductions of it. Stunning!
Astrida On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: > Hi, > > I checked all I could find out (year 1999 mostly, then something from 2000), > but didn't find an answer to what I'm searching for. You were discussing bit > different things. Maybe I just missed some important post? > So were the "grandes assiettes" sleeves pictured in one colour, and the body > in another, one garment? I read the Adrien Harmand's book and it semms she > thinks it was one garment. > > Do you have this monograph from Musee de Tissus? How it's called? Where can I > get it? I am very curious about the theory of the under "vest". I've done > various pourpoints of this style, but as I didn't find any info on how the > chest wast stuffed, I just put two small cushions on either side of the > chest, hidden by the lining, which made the large chest in the end. This > technique works well for quilted garments, but not so well for anything > without stuffing, because the soft fabric will dip in at the front opening. > See my last "charles de Blois" attempt here: > http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150367778803721.352533.294387883720&type=3 > > Just one observation I have to follow on some of the 12 year old discussions > - I think the grande assiette sleeve is easy to construct once you know how. > You can do any form of sleeve, whether tight fitting, bag, or wide at the > bottom. I will be writing a detailed tutorial on how to do this once I get to > it. Would you folks be interested? > > Zuzana > > _________________________ > www.sartor.cz > > > --- On Tue, 12/6/11, Cin <cinbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: Cin <cinbar...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Grandes assiettes - single or double layer >> To: "Historical Costume" <h-cost...@indra.com> >> Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 1:56 AM >> In a monograph published by the Musee >> des Tissus (Lyons), the Charles >> de Blois pourpoint is conjectured to be worn over a >> vest-like thing >> that held all the stuffing for the fashionable high puff >> chest. This >> particular example has the sleeves & body of the gament >> all in the >> same fabric. >> We discussed this pourpoint, the account books from the >> Dukes of >> Lorraine, Jeanne d'Arc & the records from her >> trial waaay-back. Check >> the h-cost archives. >> --cin >> Cynthia Barnes >> cinbar...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Zuzana Kraemerova <zkraemer...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I am searching for evidence for the grandes assiettes >> sleeve construction from the 14th and 15th centuries, the >> type with two coloured garment - sleeves in one colour, >> bodice in another. Like this: >> http://www.cottesimple.com/blois_and_sleeves/grande_assiette/Sachsenspiegel_large.jpg >>> >>> Do you know whether this was one garment made from two >> fabrics, or two separate garments, the upper being a >> vest-sort of thing? I know this is often discussed, but has >> anyone already found an answer to this question? >>> >>> Thanks a lot, >>> >>> Zuzana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
