On Tuesday, 21 January 2025 05:59:41 GMT G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Hi onf, > [...] > The good news is, that's sorted out now, and comes with a "NEWS" > item.[1] Deri was really helpful in sorting out the issues here. > (As you're aware, there are knock-on issues not yet resolved to his > satisfaction.[2]) > [Rearranged]
> [2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2024-12/msg00168.html I think this was in a discussion on what should be sent in the grout file AFTER you make groff UTF-8 aware (without preconv), should grout continue with the \[uXXXX] form, or pass the character data as UTF-8. Given onf and Peter were generally supportive of seeing UTF-8 in grout, and your defence of it was described as "making it perfect for most people would make it horrible for a small minority, so let's rather keep it bad for everyone", I rather think the consensus would be to use UTF-8 in grout. For people using an ascii locale it is unlikely their documents will contain anything but ascii so would be perfectly readable in UTF-8 grout. Other issues in the message have yet to be answered. > ii. Hyperlinking macros need to be added to ms(7), me(7), and mm(7). > Here, at least with mm, the problems of within-document linking > may be solvable with less disruption (meaning: no new macros), > because the package already supports an internal referencing > system. Also, there is likely much less demand for deep links > across documents using these packages. > > If someone's wondering, I'm not a fan of groff_www(7) and don't > anticipate using it. Keith added a hyperlink macro to -mspdf:- .XR destination <post> <pre> Which I am supporting because it follows the style other ms macros, however I have simplified formatting of the hyperlink text, borrowing Peter's (mom) idea of using "expandos" as part of the hyperlink text. [...] > Let's see, is that everything? When I'm brain-dumping, sometimes it's > hard to tell whether I'm finished. An affliction of age, maybe... Not the only age related issue with detecting if a flow has finished! > Regards, > Branden Cheers Deri