> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM, qMax <[email protected]> wrote: > Documentation for the JS version can be found in > wave<https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BtHD6...>; > sample<http://antimatter15.com/misc/wave/waveread-alpha4.html?googlewave.com...>; > also see the other waves from antimatter15. This basically acts as a full > web client, and retrieves the wave data in JSON; and converts it into HTML > (non-trivial). Great! I'll check this out. Though, it cannot help to restore already destroyed waves. Somehow i miss most cool stuff from antimatter15. Should definitely be aware of it.
> But the point of interest here is the method: using firefox + firebug, you > can reverse-engineer arbitrary parts of the proto, including wave creation, > blip submission, etc. I also find ?ll=debug quite usefull thing. Unfortunately, turning on firebug on my pc suffice to catch just a few events before it hangs. > Not really sure if impersonation can be achieved by this way -so a backup > solution would probably restore blip content only, but not the date, and > author of the blip. In case of serious damage, an author is ok to be restored just as remark. I care about recovering structure of wavelet. That should be something like offside playback with rollback. > > > Third, you can build trust networks by using the Google groups > > > solution<http://archive.waverz.com/googlewave.com!w+VJoH3a3CK/_>, > > Great! > > The feature with google groups seems working, with pecularities > > though. > > Let me know, if you run into problems, maybe we can work around it? They are quite definitive described in first comment under link. We tested it today, it appeared problematic to add non-wave (on web-client belief) adresses into contacts. > This reminds me of Primer <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/>: > *Aaron: You know that story, about how NASA spent millions of dollars > developing this pen that writes in Zero G? Did you ever read that? * > *Abe: Yeah. * > *Aaron: You know how the Russians solved the problem? * > *Abe: Yeah, they used a pencil. * > *Aaron: Right. A normal wooden pencil. It just seems like Philip takes the > NASA route almost every time. * > > So: no. For one, full featured bot-wars would probably utilise native > clients, as described very above; so even removing "bots" is out. > Should this occur, before access control is in place (that would motivate the > wave > team! :) ) Yes, the same way as spammers use smtp-agents in their botnets. However, I believe that thinking of botwars is just semi-histeric reaction. > I think instead of a bot-war, traffic would probably just broke > into invite-only groups, with the trust-networks above. > Once AC is in place, I think most of these will be a non-issue. Lars recently said, that public waves appeared quite surprising to the team. It had BEEN intended that Wave will be used in the wave similar to what you described, with closed private waves. But preview discovered that such usecase has its niche and makes a sense. And need to do something with it. The incident of this weeken is already reported to the team. We'll see what it will lead to. Maybe, we'll have not to look up a pencil :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=en.
