Perhaps it’s time for our newcomer, Nicolas Pettiaux, to stop posting for a while and do a little reading to inform himself about OA and its (short) history. Otherwise he is just making us recapitulate it for him.
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear > > I appreciate these discussions and clarifications. For me, and for most > people who are nex to the subjects and I meet, "Gold open access" and > "green open access" are confusing terms, even though they have been used > for a long time in official documents. > > Green refers to nature and gold to expensive. What else for newcomers (= > most people in fact) ? > > And nature is not necessarily cheap, while gold is most of the time > expensive. > > What is "cheap open access" ? By cheap open access, I mean the full > price of publishing a work (most of the time online only) in such a way > that its overal price be as low as possible and ONLY reflect the actual > costs ? > > The best method I can think of is forget about ANY journals, and > consider as "publication quality paper" a work that is published > anywhere online, be it on an institutional (open) repository or any > website. Stop counting papers but only refer to their quality as > measured for example effective evaluation of a committee made of human > beings and not anymore by any accounting technique. Yes, this would > suppose that on a per document base, or per person base, a committee > would have to do actual work. But this is done already for most grant > attribution or tenure selection processes. Maybe not yet by the actual > reading of the papers and comments about his own papers an authors would > write. > Comments on a public website where the paper is published could also be > taken into account in the evaluation. > > Many people agree today to consider that the peer review system does not > work anymore due to a too large number of submitted papers and a too > large number of journals/reviews. > > Is there any other solution than dumping the reviews, the journals, the > papers as they are evaluated and listed today ? I am not the one > proposing this . I have discussed the subject with Pierre-Louis Lions, a > famous French mathematician, professor at the College de France and > president of the board of the Ecole Normale supérieure who mentioned > such a procedure he would appreciate and support. > > Best regards, > > Nicolas > > -- > Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - [email protected] > Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
